Earned Income Credit with Military Retirement Pay - Does it Count?
Hey tax friends, I need some advice on this EIC situation. My husband finished his 25 years in the Navy and gets about $38,000/year from his military retirement (1099-R). He also works a civilian job now making around $58,000 (W-2 income). We have 3 kids who qualify as dependents. Here's where I'm confused - our neighbors who are in a similar situation told us they don't count the military retirement as earned income for the Earned Income Credit calculation. Since my husband retired, we haven't been able to claim the EIC because with his retirement income included, we're over the limit. I've been searching everywhere to find out who's right. I know some states treat military retirement differently for state tax purposes, but I can't find a clear answer for federal taxes and the EIC specifically. Are we doing this right or have we been missing out on a tax credit we could have claimed? Any help or direction to resources would be greatly appreciated!
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Drew Hathaway
Military retirement pay is considered unearned income, just like other pensions, interest, and dividends. For the Earned Income Credit (EIC), only earned income counts towards qualifying for the credit - things like wages, salaries, tips, and self-employment income. However, your total income (both earned and unearned) is what's used to determine if you're over the investment income limit for EIC, which is $11,000 for 2024 tax year. So while military retirement doesn't help you qualify for EIC, it can potentially push you over income limits. Based on what you've shared, your combined income is likely too high for EIC regardless. For 2024, the income limit for married filing jointly with three qualifying children is around $63,400 in earned income. Your husband's W-2 income alone ($58,000) is getting close to that threshold.
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Sadie Benitez
•Thanks for explaining! So to make sure I understand - the military retirement isn't counted as "earned income" for qualifying for the EIC (which would be good), but it does count toward our overall income limits (which is bad)? If that's the case, then maybe our neighbors are still over the income limit with just their W-2 earnings, but they're claiming the credit anyway? Or maybe their civilian job pays less than ours?
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Drew Hathaway
•That's exactly right - military retirement isn't counted as "earned income" when determining if you have enough earned income to qualify for the EIC, but it is included in your adjusted gross income (AGI) which can push you over the income limits for claiming the credit. Your neighbors might have a lower civilian income that keeps them under the threshold, or they might be claiming the credit incorrectly. It's also possible they have other deductions that lower their AGI enough to qualify. Without knowing their exact situation, it's hard to say for sure.
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Laila Prince
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Isabel Vega
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TommyKapitz
Just to add something important - if your income is too high for EIC, don't forget to check if you qualify for the Child Tax Credit instead! Unlike EIC, the Child Tax Credit has much higher income limits before it starts phasing out. For 2024, married couples filing jointly can have up to $400,000 in modified AGI before the Child Tax Credit starts phasing out. With 3 kids, that could be worth up to $6,000 ($2,000 per qualifying child), which is usually more than what EIC would provide anyway.
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Sadie Benitez
•That's really helpful! We definitely claim the Child Tax Credit. I was just worried we might be missing out on additional credits. Sounds like we're probably doing things correctly after all, and our neighbors might be the ones making a mistake. Do you know if there are any other credits we should be looking at with our situation?
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TommyKapitz
•You're definitely on the right track with the Child Tax Credit! Other credits to consider with your situation would be the Child and Dependent Care Credit if you pay for childcare while you work, and education credits like the American Opportunity Credit or Lifetime Learning Credit if any of your children are in college or if you or your spouse are pursuing higher education. Military families sometimes overlook the Saver's Credit (for retirement contributions) if your AGI falls under certain thresholds. While your combined income might be too high, it's worth checking if you file separately (though that has other implications you'd need to consider carefully).
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Angel Campbell
As a retired military member myself, I can confirm what others have said about military retirement not counting as earned income for EIC. Your neighbor might be making a mistake that could cause problems if they get audited. One thing nobody mentioned - check if your state offers any special tax breaks for military retirement. Many states don't tax military retirement income at all, which can save you thousands depending on where you live!
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Payton Black
•Does anyone know if there's a comprehensive list somewhere of which states don't tax military retirement? We're thinking of moving when my husband retires next year and tax benefits could definitely influence our decision.
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Chloe Taylor
•Yes! There are quite a few states that don't tax military retirement income. Off the top of my head, states like Florida, Texas, Nevada, Washington, and Tennessee have no state income tax at all, so military retirement is automatically tax-free there. Then there are states that specifically exempt military retirement - like Alabama, Hawaii, Illinois, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin (though some have age or amount restrictions). I'd recommend checking with a tax professional or doing research specific to the states you're considering, since the rules can change and some states have partial exemptions or income limits. The Military Officers Association of America (MOAA) usually has updated guides on military-friendly tax states that might be helpful for your planning!
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Aisha Jackson
This is such a common confusion for military families! I went through the exact same thing when my spouse retired from the Air Force. The key distinction that helped me understand it was that military retirement pay is treated like any other pension for tax purposes - it's "unearned income" even though you definitely earned it through your service. What really helped us was getting a copy of IRS Publication 596 (Earned Income Credit) which spells out exactly what counts as earned income. Military retirement, along with other pensions, Social Security, unemployment compensation, and investment income are all specifically excluded from the earned income calculation. Your neighbors might be in a different situation income-wise, or they might be making an error that could catch up with them later. The IRS computers are pretty good at catching EIC claims that don't match up with the income reported on your tax documents. One silver lining - even though you can't claim EIC, make sure you're maximizing other credits like the Child Tax Credit that aren't limited by the "earned income" requirement. With three kids, that's potentially $6,000 right there!
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Zoe Papadakis
•This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I was looking for! Thank you for mentioning IRS Publication 596 - I'm definitely going to download that and read through it. It's frustrating how something you definitely "earned" through military service doesn't count as "earned income" for tax purposes, but at least now I understand the logic behind it. You're absolutely right about maximizing the Child Tax Credit - we do claim that and it's been a big help. I think I was just worried we were leaving money on the table with the EIC, but it sounds like we're doing everything correctly. I'm also a bit concerned about our neighbors now. I don't want to create drama by questioning their tax situation, but I'd hate for them to get hit with penalties and interest if they're claiming credits they don't qualify for. Maybe I'll just casually mention this thread and let them draw their own conclusions.
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William Schwarz
I'm a tax preparer and see this confusion every tax season with military families! You're absolutely doing this correctly - military retirement pay is unearned income and doesn't qualify for EIC calculations, even though it does count toward your overall income limits. One thing I always tell clients in your situation: consider having your tax software or preparer run a "what if" scenario comparing married filing jointly vs. married filing separately. Sometimes when one spouse has significantly higher income, filing separately can unlock credits for the lower-earning spouse, though you'd lose other benefits like higher standard deduction. Also, since you mentioned your neighbors' situation - they might have different circumstances (lower civilian income, different filing status, or additional deductions) that keep them under the income thresholds. Or unfortunately, they might be claiming the credit incorrectly. The IRS matching system usually catches these errors within a couple years, so if they are making a mistake, they'll likely hear about it eventually. Keep documenting your research on this topic (like saving this thread) in case you ever need to show you made a good faith effort to understand the rules correctly!
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Anderson Prospero
•Thanks for the professional perspective! That's a really good point about keeping documentation of our research. I never thought about saving threads like this, but it makes sense to have a paper trail showing we tried to understand the rules correctly. The "what if" scenario idea is interesting too. My civilian job pays about $45,000, so there might be a situation where filing separately could work in our favor, though I'm guessing the loss of the higher standard deduction would probably offset any potential EIC benefit. Still worth running the numbers though! It's reassuring to hear from a tax professional that we're handling this correctly. I was second-guessing myself after talking to our neighbors, but all the responses here have been consistent about military retirement not qualifying as earned income for EIC purposes.
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Laila Fury
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a veteran spouse dealing with a similar situation - my husband gets VA disability compensation and I was confused about how that impacts our EIC eligibility too. For anyone else reading this who might have VA disability pay, I learned that VA disability compensation is treated differently than military retirement pay for tax purposes. VA disability is completely tax-free and doesn't count as income at all for EIC calculations (neither as earned income nor toward the income limits). So if you have VA disability, it won't hurt your EIC eligibility the way military retirement pay does. Just wanted to add that distinction since I see a lot of confusion about different types of military-related income. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge here - it's so much clearer now why some military families qualify for EIC and others don't!
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