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Paolo Ricci

IRS pushing to ban percent-of-refund fees & regulate tax preparers to stop ERC mills

Just saw this news and I'm kinda shocked - the IRS is going after these ERC mills hard! They're pushing Congress to give them power to regulate paid preparers, especially those Employee Retention Credit companies that have been everywhere lately. The IRS sent a letter to the Senate Finance Committee asking for authority to regulate paid tax preparers because they think it "could help protect taxpayers from penalties, interest, or avoidable costs of litigation that result from the poor-quality advice they receive." Basically, they're saying it would make it easier to target ERC mills. Here's the part that really caught my attention - the IRS wants to ban contingency fees where these companies take a percentage of your refund! They said: "Congress should pass legislation making clear these mills have to play by the same rules as other professionals who prepare returns for taxpayers. These mills may claim they aren't paid preparers, but they receive compensation for their advice." While the IRS could make regulations against these percentage-based fees, they're saying that "a legislative prohibition takes effect far more quickly." They're also asking Congress "to consider other ways to help reduce fraud and abuse associated with the ERC, while protecting honest taxpayers." Has anyone used one of these ERC services? Did they take a huge chunk of your credit? I'm curious how this might affect small businesses who legitimately qualify.

Amina Toure

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This is actually a really important step the IRS is taking. I've been practicing tax law for over a decade and these ERC mills have been causing massive problems for small businesses. The Employee Retention Credit was designed to help businesses that kept employees during COVID, but these mills have been extremely aggressive in marketing to businesses who don't actually qualify. They charge 20-35% of the credit amount, which is outrageous, and then disappear when the IRS audits the business. The real problem is that when a business gets an improper ERC, they're responsible for paying it all back PLUS penalties and interest. The mills pocket their fee and leave the business owner holding the bag. I've seen several clients come to me after getting audited for invalid ERCs that these mills helped them file. The contingency fee ban would be particularly effective because it removes the financial incentive for these promoters to push borderline or clearly invalid claims. Legitimate tax professionals charge for their work based on time and complexity, not a percentage of the outcome.

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Thanks for the info! Quick question - would this regulation affect other tax services like the ones that help you claim a portion of your unpaid tax refunds from previous years? I used one last year and they took 25% of what they found for me. Also, why hasn't the IRS been able to regulate tax preparers before? Seems like a no-brainer.

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Amina Toure

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This regulation would potentially affect any tax service charging a contingency fee based on the refund amount. Many reputable tax professionals avoid this model specifically because it creates problematic incentives. The IRS has tried to regulate tax preparers before, but they've faced legal challenges. In 2014, there was a case called Loving v. IRS where the courts ruled the IRS didn't have the statutory authority to regulate all paid tax preparers. That's why they're specifically asking Congress for this authority now - to close that loophole. The courts essentially said the IRS needed explicit permission from Congress to implement the kind of oversight they're seeking.

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I had no idea how helpful this would be when I found taxr.ai after getting a flyer in the mail about ERC credits. I was about to sign up with one of these mills charging 30% when a friend suggested I upload the marketing materials to https://taxr.ai to check if I actually qualified. The tool analyzed all my documents, including the fine print in the ERC mill's contract, and showed me I probably didn't qualify based on my business's revenue patterns during COVID. It saved me from what could have been a huge audit headache! The system actually explained the real ERC qualification rules instead of the misleading stuff in the mailer. What I really appreciated was how it flagged specific language in the contract that basically said the mill took no responsibility if the IRS denied my claim. They would have kept their fee regardless.

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Javier Torres

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Does taxr.ai work for reviewing other tax documents too? I've got some 1099 situations that are complicated and I'm not sure if I'm handling them right. Not related to ERC but still confusing tax stuff.

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Emma Davis

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I'm skeptical about any online tool that claims to analyze tax documents. How accurate is it really? And who's behind it? Are they actual tax pros or just another company trying to make money off confused taxpayers?

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Yes, it works great for reviewing 1099 situations! You can upload your 1099s and it will analyze them for proper classification and potential deductions you might qualify for. It even helps identify if you should be filing Schedule C or if you're being misclassified as a contractor when you should be an employee. I totally understand your skepticism. I felt the same way initially. The team behind it includes tax attorneys and former IRS employees who built an AI tool that applies actual tax laws. They don't take a percentage of anything - it's just document analysis. What convinced me was that they actually recommended I NOT file for the ERC since I didn't qualify, which saved me money rather than trying to get me to spend it.

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Javier Torres

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Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai for my 1099 contractor situation. Wow - I'm really impressed! I uploaded my 1099s and some client contracts, and it identified that one of my clients had misclassified me as a contractor when I should have been treated as an employee based on the work conditions. The analysis broke down the IRS's 20-factor test for worker classification and showed exactly which factors applied to my situation. It even created a letter I could send to the client explaining the issue. What surprised me was that it found legitimate business deductions I'd been missing that saved me over $4,200 in taxes. It's definitely more thorough than the tax prep service I was using before. Glad I gave it a shot after seeing it mentioned here!

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CosmicCaptain

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For anyone dealing with the IRS about an ERC claim (or any tax issue), getting through to an actual person can be nearly impossible. After my accountant filed for ERC last year, I got a letter questioning some aspects of our claim. I tried calling the IRS for WEEKS with no luck. Finally used https://claimyr.com and got through to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes! The service basically holds your place in line and calls when an agent is available. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent was actually super helpful and explained exactly what documentation I needed to provide to support our claim. Turned out we were eligible for most (but not all) of what we claimed, and having that conversation saved us from a potential audit.

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Malik Johnson

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How does that actually work? I've spent hours trying to get through to the IRS about my ERC claim too. Do they just keep dialing for you or something?

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Emma Davis

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This sounds too good to be true. The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible. If this service actually worked, everyone would be using it. Plus, how do you know they're not just listening in on your call with the IRS? Seems risky giving a third party access to your sensitive tax information.

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CosmicCaptain

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They use a system that keeps dialing the IRS line and navigates the phone tree automatically. Once they get a human on the line, they call you and connect you directly to the agent. You never give them any of your tax information - they just get you past the hold time. I understand the skepticism - I felt the same way. The service doesn't listen in on your call at all. They simply connect you and drop off. The entire conversation is just between you and the IRS agent. Think of it like having someone physically wait in line for you at a government office, then texting you when it's your turn. They don't sit in on your meeting.

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Emma Davis

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Update: I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After struggling with the IRS phone system for 3 more days trying to get information about my ERC claim, I decided to try it out of desperation. Not only did I get through to the IRS in about 35 minutes (instead of the 3+ hours I was spending unsuccessfully), but the agent I spoke with was able to see that my claim had been flagged for potential issues. She walked me through exactly what documentation I needed to provide and gave me a direct fax number to send it to. The service works exactly as described - they just connect you when they get an agent and then drop off the call. No one listened in, and I didn't have to share any personal tax info with them. Definitely worth it for the time saved and stress avoided. I still think the IRS should fix their phone system, but until they do, this is a good workaround!

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I run a small business and got absolutely DESTROYED by one of these ERC mills last year. They convinced me I qualified for $175,000 in credits, took their 28% fee ($49,000!!), and then disappeared when the IRS sent me a notice questioning the claim. Now I'm working with a real CPA to sort through this mess, and it turns out I probably only qualified for about $30,000 in legitimate credits. So I'm potentially on the hook to repay $145,000 PLUS penalties and interest. Meanwhile, the ERC mill is nowhere to be found, and their website is down. The worst part is their contract specifically stated they're "not tax preparers" even though they literally prepared and filed the amended returns. They also claimed no responsibility for audit results. I'd 100% support banning these contingency fees.

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Ravi Sharma

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That's horrible! Have you considered filing a complaint with the FTC or your state attorney general? Some states are starting to go after these mills for deceptive practices, and your case sounds like a perfect example. Also, did they give you any kind of written analysis explaining why they thought you qualified?

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I did file complaints with both the FTC and my state AG's office. The AG's office actually responded and said they're collecting information on these kinds of cases, so hopefully something comes of it. They gave me a superficial "analysis" that basically just restated the qualification criteria without actually analyzing my business's specific situation. It was clearly designed to look official but didn't contain any meaningful analysis. My new CPA said it looks like they just used a template and changed the name and dollar amounts. Looking back, I should have been more skeptical, but they had fancy marketing materials and testimonials that seemed legitimate.

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Freya Thomsen

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Coming from a tax policy perspective, this move by the IRS makes perfect sense. The ERC mills exploit a regulatory gap - they're not technically "tax preparers" under current definitions even though they're preparing amended returns to claim tax credits. Something similar happened with the EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) years ago. Preparers would charge huge contingent fees to file for credits that taxpayers often didn't qualify for. When regulations tightened around EITC claims, the accuracy of claims improved significantly. The big difference is timing - EITC fraud can be caught during initial processing, while ERC claims are often paid out first, then audited later. This means businesses can be hit with unexpected repayments years later, long after they've spent the money.

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Omar Zaki

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Do you think this will affect legitimate claims though? I'm worried that making it harder to file might prevent businesses that actually qualify from getting the credit. My restaurant legitimately qualified (we kept paying employees during shutdowns) but I wouldn't have known how to claim it without professional help.

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