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Peyton Clarke

IRMAA charges and SSA-44 form: What's the purpose of STEP 3 when applying for reduction?

I'm trying to understand the purpose of STEP 3 on the SSA-44 form for IRMAA appeals. Contacted SSA but their explanation wasn't clear. For context - I'm single filer who retired in July 2023 after being in the first IRMAA bracket in 2022. Currently living on about $13,500 annual income from dividends and interest (waiting to claim Social Security). Unfortunately, I made a Roth conversion in 2023 without properly calculating the impact, which pushed my AGI to $112,229 - over the MAGI threshold of $103,000 for IRMAA. On the SSA-44 form: - STEP 2: I entered Tax Year 2023, AGI $112,229 (which doesn't help reduce my IRMAA charges) - STEP 3: Asks "Will your modified adjusted gross income be lower next year than the year in Step 2?" This year (2024), I can definitely keep my AGI below the new threshold of $106,000. So in STEP 3, I could put Tax Year 2024, projected AGI $100,000. My questions: 1. What's the actual purpose of STEP 3? Will answering it affect my IRMAA charges for 2024? Or is it just indicating whether I might qualify for an appeal in 2025? 2. Is there any benefit to submitting this form in 2024 at all? Thanks for any insights!

Vince Eh

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The SSA-44 form is used when you've had a life-changing event that reduced your income. Step 3 is actually pretty important for your situation! When you complete Step 2 showing your income was above the threshold, you're confirming you don't qualify for an immediate reduction based on that year's income. But Step 3 serves as an early warning system for the SSA. By indicating your income will be lower in 2024 than 2023, you're alerting them that your situation is continuing to change. This helps the SSA anticipate future appeals and can sometimes trigger a review of your case sooner. While it won't automatically reduce your 2024 IRMAA (that's determined by your 2022 income), it does create a record that you predicted the income drop. Is there a benefit to submitting in 2024? Absolutely. It creates documentation of your retirement as a life-changing event and your income trajectory. When 2025 comes around and your 2024 tax return shows the income below threshold as you predicted, this can streamline any appeals process. The SSA likes seeing consistency between what you projected and what actually happened.

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This is interesting. So does this mean the SSA might proactively adjust my IRMAA in the future based on the Step 3 information? Or would I still need to submit another form next year?

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Vince Eh

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You'll still need to submit documentation next year. The SSA doesn't proactively adjust your IRMAA based on your projections in Step 3. They need to see your actual tax return data. The main benefit is that you're creating a paper trail showing you anticipated the income reduction, which strengthens your case. It shows you're being transparent and consistent with the SSA about your situation, rather than just reacting after receiving higher charges.

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Sunny Wang

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The SSA-44 form has another purpose not mentioned yet. If you complete Step 3 with a significantly lower projected income, it sometimes triggers the SSA to send you a reminder notice the following year about submitting updated information. I experienced this myself - filled out Step 3 showing my income would drop below the threshold in the following year, and about 11 months later, I received a letter reminding me that I might want to submit updated information based on my previous projection. Not guaranteed they'll do this, but it happened in my case. One more tip: keep copies of everything! The SSA has been known to lose paperwork, and having your own records of what you submitted and when can save massive headaches if there's ever a dispute about whether you properly reported a life-changing event.

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Did you need to submit a new SSA-44 the following year, or did they adjust your IRMAA based on the projection you made in Step 3 the previous year?

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Sunny Wang

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I had to submit a new form the following year with my actual tax return information. The Step 3 projection doesn't automatically adjust anything - it's more like planting a flag in their system. The reminder notice was helpful though, as it included specific instructions for what documentation to include based on my particular life-changing event. It seemed more personalized than the generic instructions on the SSA website.

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One thing to be careful about - the MAGI thresholds for 2025 (based on 2023 income) have been adjusted for inflation. The threshold for the first IRMAA bracket for single filers is now $103,000, not $97,000 like it was previously. So your 2023 income of $112,229 is actually putting you in the first IRMAA bracket, not the second. Make sure you're looking at the current year's threshold chart when figuring out where you stand! Also, the 2-year lookback is what confuses most people. In 2025, they'll use your 2023 return. Completing the SSA-44 now documents your life-changing event (retirement) so when they look at your 2023 income in 2025, they'll have that documentation already in place.

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Peyton Clarke

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Thank you for pointing this out! I was looking at an older chart. So my Roth conversion didn't push me as far into IRMAA territory as I initially thought. That's somewhat relieving. The 2-year lookback definitely makes this more complicated to plan around. So to clarify - if I keep my 2024 income under the threshold as indicated in Step 3, that would affect my IRMAA premiums in 2026, correct?

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Yes, exactly right. Your 2024 income will determine your IRMAA in 2026. So keeping your 2024 income under the threshold is good planning. But the SSA-44 form you're filling out now is addressing a different issue - it's saying "don't use my 2023 income for 2025 IRMAA calculations because I had a life-changing event (retirement)." If approved, they'll instead look at your projected post-retirement income to determine your 2025 IRMAA.

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The confusion around Step 3 is totally understandable! I went through this same process when I retired early in 2022. Step 3 essentially serves as a "heads up" to the SSA that your income situation is stabilizing at a lower level after your life-changing event. While it won't impact your current year's IRMAA, it creates a record that you anticipated the income reduction would continue. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure you're conservative with your Step 3 projection. If you put down $100,000 but your actual 2024 AGI ends up being higher (maybe you have unexpected capital gains or required distributions), it could complicate future appeals. The SSA likes consistency between projections and actual results. Also, don't forget that even though your 2023 Roth conversion pushed you over the threshold, retirement is still a qualifying life-changing event. The key is showing that your ongoing income (without that one-time conversion) is now substantially lower than what the 2-year lookback would suggest. Good luck with the appeal! The documentation you're creating now will definitely help streamline things when 2025 rolls around.

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Dylan Baskin

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This is really helpful advice about being conservative with Step 3 projections! I hadn't thought about the potential complications if my actual income ends up higher than projected. Quick question - when you say "substantially lower," is there a specific percentage or dollar amount the SSA looks for when evaluating whether the ongoing income justifies the life-changing event appeal? Or is it more of a case-by-case assessment? Also, did you find that having the Roth conversion as a one-time event actually helped your case, since it clearly showed the income spike wasn't representative of your ongoing retirement income level?

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