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I pay sales tax for my customers - can I deduct it as a business expense?

I run a small craft business and I'm confused about how to handle sales tax. Most businesses collect sales tax from customers and then remit it to the state, and I know that's not considered income. But my situation is different - I decided to just include the sales tax in my pricing and pay it myself rather than charging customers separately. Basically, I'm paying the sales tax on behalf of my customers. When I file my quarterly sales tax returns, I calculate what I owe based on my sales and send that money to the state. Since I'm absorbing this cost rather than collecting it separately, can I deduct these sales tax payments as a business expense on my federal taxes? It's a real cost to my business, but I'm not sure if the IRS would allow it since it's technically a tax I'm supposed to collect from customers. My accountant is on vacation and I need to get my quarterly stuff done soon. Has anyone handled sales tax this way? What's the correct way to treat this on my tax return?

This is an interesting situation! While I can't give you professional tax advice, I can share some general information about how sales tax typically works from a tax perspective. When you include sales tax in your pricing without separately stating it, you're essentially treating it as part of your gross receipts. However, that doesn't change the nature of what the sales tax is - it's still a tax imposed on the sale that you're required to collect and remit to the state. The IRS generally doesn't allow you to deduct sales taxes that you collect from customers (or should be collecting) and remit to the state. These are considered "trust fund taxes" because you're collecting them on behalf of the taxing authority. Even if you choose to absorb the cost rather than separately charging customers, it's still technically a sales tax, not a business expense. The correct approach would be to back out the sales tax from your gross receipts rather than deducting it as a business expense. For example, if your state has a 7% sales tax and you had $10,000 in sales (tax inclusive), you would report approximately $9,346 as your gross receipts ($10,000 ÷ 1.07) and remit $654 in sales tax.

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But what if the business owner is genuinely paying it themselves, not collecting from customers? Isn't that different from the typical scenario? Also, wouldn't this affect their profit margin calculations if they're eating the cost?

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The fact that you're choosing to pay it yourself doesn't change its classification for tax purposes. Sales tax is fundamentally a tax on the customer that businesses are required to collect and remit - your decision to absorb that cost doesn't transform it into a deductible business expense. This definitely does affect your profit margins, which is why most businesses separately state and collect sales tax rather than including it in their prices. When you include tax in your pricing, you're essentially giving customers a discount equal to the sales tax amount, which cuts into your profits.

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Does this actually work for sales tax specifically? Most tax software I've used is more focused on income tax than sales tax compliance. How detailed is the analysis?

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Sounds too good to be true. I've spent literal DAYS trying to get through to tax departments. How much does this service cost? And are you sure they can get through to any state tax department?

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I've been running my jewelry business for 6 years and learned this lesson the hard way. When I started, I wanted to advertise "tax-inclusive" prices to make it simpler for customers. My first year, I tried deducting the sales tax I paid as a business expense and got a notice from the IRS. The correct way to handle this is: 1) Calculate your total sales (tax inclusive) 2) Divide by (1 + your tax rate) to find your actual sales revenue 3) The difference is the sales tax you remit to the state 4) Only report the actual sales revenue on your Schedule C Example: If you sold $10,700 of products with 7% tax included: $10,700 ÷ 1.07 = $10,000 actual sales $700 = sales tax to remit Report $10,000 as your gross receipts, not $10,700 This isn't the same as deducting it - you're just not counting the tax portion as income in the first place.

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Thanks for breaking this down with a real example! So in my situation, I should be backing out the sales tax from my gross receipts rather than trying to deduct it later. That makes sense. One question though - do I need to keep any special documentation to show how I calculated this if I get audited?

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You should definitely keep detailed records showing your calculation process. I maintain a spreadsheet that shows my total sales (tax inclusive), the calculation to separate the sales tax component, and reconciliation with what I reported on my sales tax returns. Make sure your bookkeeping clearly distinguishes between your actual sales revenue and the sales tax component. You want your records to show that you properly remitted all sales tax, even though you chose to include it in your prices rather than add it separately. During an audit, they'll want to see that your reported gross receipts plus the sales tax you remitted match your total deposits.

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I think people are overcomplicating this. I've run my business for 10 years and have always included tax in my pricing. As long as you're consistent in how you track everything, it's not that complicated. Just make sure your POS or bookkeeping system allows you to record sales tax separately, even if your customers don't see it broken out. Most modern systems can handle tax-inclusive pricing while still tracking the tax component for you.

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What POS system do you use that handles this well? My Square account makes this super confusing and their customer service wasn't helpful.

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I use Shopify for my online sales and it handles tax-inclusive pricing really well. You just need to enable the "tax inclusive" option in your tax settings. It still calculates and tracks the tax portion separately in the backend reports, so you can easily see how much tax to remit while showing customers a single all-in price. For in-person sales, I've found that Lightspeed has similar functionality. Square can do it too, but it's buried in their advanced settings and not as intuitive. You might need to look up a tutorial specifically for setting up tax-inclusive pricing in Square.

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Slightly different perspective here - have you considered just separating out the sales tax on your invoices/receipts instead of absorbing it? There are a few benefits: 1. Customers actually expect to see sales tax added separately 2. It's WAY easier for accounting/bookkeeping 3. You don't cut into your profit margins 4. Avoids all this tax deduction confusion When I switched from inclusive to exclusive pricing, my sales didn't drop at all - turns out customers are used to seeing the tax added at checkout. Just something to consider as a simpler solution to your problem.

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This is what I do in my business and it's so much cleaner. Plus you can clearly show customers that the tax isn't your money - you're just collecting it for the state. Transparency helps everyone.

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I've been dealing with this exact same issue in my small business! After reading through all these responses, I'm convinced that backing out the sales tax from gross receipts is definitely the right approach rather than trying to deduct it as an expense. One thing I'd add is to make sure you're also considering multi-state sales tax rules if you sell online. I got caught off guard when I started selling to customers in other states and didn't realize I had economic nexus obligations in some of them. Each state has different thresholds for when you need to start collecting and remitting sales tax. Also, if you're doing craft shows or farmer's markets across state lines, you might need temporary sales tax permits in those states. I learned this the hard way when a show organizer informed me I needed to collect local sales tax for that jurisdiction. The good news is once you get your system set up correctly to separate the tax component from your actual sales revenue, quarterly filings become much more straightforward. I use a simple spreadsheet that automatically calculates the breakdown, and it's saved me so much headache compared to when I was trying to figure out deductions.

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Great point about multi-state sales tax! I'm just getting started with my craft business and hadn't even thought about selling across state lines yet. How did you figure out which states you had nexus in? Is there a threshold amount of sales before you need to worry about it, or does it kick in immediately once you sell to someone in another state? Also, when you mention temporary permits for craft shows - do the show organizers usually help with that information, or did you have to research each location yourself? I'm planning to do some shows this summer and want to make sure I don't get caught off guard like you did!

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