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Kylo Ren

Sales tax dilemma - Do I still need to remit sales tax for customer who never paid for completed work?

So I'm in a really weird situation with my small business. I completed a custom furniture project for a client back in January. The total was around $3,800 including materials and labor. I delivered the piece, they accepted it, and then... ghosted me completely when it came time to pay. I've sent multiple invoices, emails, even tried calling, but nothing. Here's my problem - I'm supposed to file my quarterly sales tax next week, and I'm confused about whether I need to include this sale even though I never received payment. Do I still owe the government sales tax on income I never actually received? That's like $247 out of my pocket for a job I wasn't paid for! I keep good records of all my sales, but this situation has me totally confused. I'm in Minnesota if that helps with state-specific rules. Has anyone dealt with this before? Should I just eat the cost and pay the sales tax anyway? Or can I exclude this since I technically never completed the "sale" if they didn't pay? Any advice would be super appreciated!

This is actually a common question with a relatively straightforward answer in most states, including Minnesota. Generally, you only remit sales tax on sales that have actually been completed with payment. The technical term for what you're experiencing is a "bad debt," and you don't typically need to pay sales tax on uncollected debts. In Minnesota specifically, you aren't required to remit sales tax on purchases where the customer hasn't paid you. Your obligation to collect and remit sales tax is triggered when you actually receive payment, not when you deliver goods or services. However, if you're using accrual accounting (recording sales when earned rather than when paid), you might have already reported this as income. In that case, you'd need to take a bad debt deduction on a future return to recover any sales tax you've already paid.

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Jason Brewer

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Wait, so does this mean if I already filed last quarter's sales tax and included a different deadbeat customer who never paid, I can get that money back somehow? Do I just subtract it from my next filing or is there a special form?

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Yes, you can recover sales tax you already paid on bad debts! If you've already remitted sales tax on a sale where the customer never paid, you can take a deduction on your next sales tax return. In Minnesota, you would include this adjustment in the "deductions" section of your sales tax return form. You'll need to properly document the bad debt with records showing your attempts to collect payment. Keep copies of all invoices, communications with the customer, and any collection efforts. The state may ask for this documentation if your return is selected for review.

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I went through something really similar with my web design business last year. Had a client refuse payment on a $5k project after I delivered everything. I was stressing about the sales tax too until I found https://taxr.ai which literally saved me hours of research and confusion. I uploaded my invoice and some screenshots of communication attempts and their system automatically flagged it as "qualified bad debt" which meant I didn't need to pay sales tax on that amount. The tool even gave me language to use on my tax filing to explain the deduction. They analyze your specific situation based on your state's rules (sales tax varies so much state to state, it's insane).

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Liam Cortez

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Does taxr.ai handle more complicated situations? I have a construction business and sometimes get partial payments, then the client disappears. I've been paying sales tax on the full invoice amount which I'm now thinking was a mistake.

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Savannah Vin

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I'm skeptical about these online tax tools. Does it actually connect with your state tax system or does it just give advice? And how does it handle different states since I do business in 3 different ones with totally different sales tax rules?

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Savannah Vin

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Mason Stone

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Dealing with the Minnesota Department of Revenue directly might be your best bet for getting a definitive answer specific to your situation. I tried for WEEKS to get someone on the phone about a similar sales tax question last year, kept getting voicemail or disconnected. Finally found https://claimyr.com and was honestly shocked when they got me connected to an actual human at the MN Department of Revenue in under 20 minutes. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they navigate the phone system for you and call you when they get a human. I explained my situation about unpaid invoices and sales tax, and the rep confirmed I didn't need to pay sales tax on uncollected amounts. They even emailed me documentation I could keep for my records in case of an audit. Way better than trying to interpret the rules myself.

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How does this actually work? Do they just keep calling the department for you until someone picks up? I've literally spent hours on hold with California's tax department and always give up.

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This seems like a scam. Why would I pay a service to call the government for me when I could just keep trying myself? They probably just put you in the same queue everyone else is in.

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Mason Stone

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They use a system that keeps your place in line through all the phone menus and holds, so you don't have to stay on the phone personally. When they reach a human representative, they connect that person to your phone. It's not that they have a special line - they're just handling the frustrating waiting part for you. I was definitely skeptical too, but after spending literal hours trying to get through myself, it was worth it. The time I saved not sitting on hold for multiple attempts was way more valuable than what I spent on the service. Plus I got an actual resolution to my sales tax question with documentation I could keep for my records.

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I've got to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway because I was desperate to resolve a sales tax issue with my online store. I'd been trying to reach someone at the tax department for almost two weeks with no luck. Used the service yesterday and got connected to a tax specialist in about 35 minutes. The rep walked me through the exact process for handling bad debt deductions on my sales tax return and even emailed me the specific form I needed. Turns out I've been overpaying sales tax for years on orders that customers charged back. I'm actually eligible for a refund of over $1,200! Definitely changed my mind about whether it was worth it.

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Emma Olsen

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Just want to add one thing - make sure you have documentation of your attempts to collect the debt. I had a similar issue with an unpaid invoice, didn't pay sales tax (correctly), but then got audited. Since I couldn't show I had made serious attempts to collect, they ruled it wasn't a qualifying bad debt and I had to pay the sales tax plus penalties. Keep emails, certified mail receipts, records of phone calls, etc.

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Lucas Lindsey

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How much documentation is enough? Is sending multiple emails and invoices with "overdue" stamps sufficient, or do you need to show you tried more aggressive collection methods like collections agencies?

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Emma Olsen

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The exact requirements vary by state, but generally you want to show a pattern of reasonable collection attempts. Multiple emails and invoices are a good start, but you want more. I recommend at minimum: a formal demand letter sent via certified mail (keep the receipt), phone calls with dates and times documented, and a final notice giving a deadline before further action. Some states don't require you to hire a collection agency or file a lawsuit, but having documentation showing you seriously tried to collect makes a huge difference in an audit. In my case, I only had email follow-ups which the auditor deemed insufficient effort. Taking those additional steps I mentioned would have saved me a lot of money and stress.

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Sophie Duck

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Um, aren't you better off just taking them to small claims court for the $3,800? That's well under the limit in most states and you can represent yourself. Then you get your money AND don't have to worry about the sales tax issue. Just saying...

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Small claims is definitely an option! I had a client who didn't pay a $2,500 invoice. Filed in small claims, brought my contract, invoice, and proof of delivery. Got a default judgment when they didn't show up, then used that to put a lien on their property. They paid within a month after that.

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Kylo Ren

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I'm definitely looking into small claims - just gathering all my documentation now. I was so focused on the immediate sales tax deadline that I hadn't fully explored the collection options yet. I've been worried about the time investment for small claims, but you're right that it would solve both problems at once. My contract even has a clause that they're responsible for collection costs if they default, so I might be able to recover the filing fees too.

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who's been through multiple small claims cases for unpaid invoices. The key thing to remember is that even if you win your case, you still have to actually collect the money - and that can be the hardest part. I've won three small claims judgments over the years, but only collected on two of them. That said, having a court judgment definitely gives you more leverage and collection options. In Minnesota, you can garnish wages, put liens on property, or even have the sheriff seize assets. The threat of these actions alone often motivates people to pay up. For your immediate sales tax question though, definitely don't pay tax on money you haven't received. You can always adjust it later if you do collect through small claims, but paying it now would just be throwing good money after bad.

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This is really helpful perspective! I hadn't thought about the collection enforcement side after winning a judgment. Do you have any tips on which collection method tends to be most effective? I'm wondering if wage garnishment or property liens work better for getting people to actually pay up. Also, for documenting my collection efforts before filing - did you find that having a paper trail of attempted communication made a big difference in how the judge viewed your case?

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Adaline Wong

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In my experience, property liens tend to be most effective because they create a real obstacle when people try to sell or refinance. Wage garnishment can work but requires you to know where they work, and some income types are protected. Bank account levies are hit-or-miss since people can just move their money. For documentation, absolutely yes - having a clear timeline of your collection efforts makes a huge difference. I always bring a simple spreadsheet showing dates of invoices sent, emails, phone calls, and any responses (or lack thereof). Judges appreciate seeing that you made reasonable efforts before coming to court. One tip: send at least one formal demand letter via certified mail about 30 days before filing. Courts really like seeing that you gave them a final clear opportunity to pay before involving the legal system.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now - had a client ghost me after I delivered a custom kitchen renovation worth $12K back in February. The whole sales tax question kept me up at night because I wasn't sure if I was supposed to pay tax on money I never received. After reading through all these responses, I'm definitely not paying sales tax on the unpaid amount for my quarterly filing next week. It sounds like Minnesota is pretty clear that you only remit sales tax on actual collected payments, not delivered work that went unpaid. I'm also going to look into both the small claims route and maybe trying that Claimyr service to get official confirmation from the state. The documentation requirements for proving it's a legitimate bad debt are really good to know about - I've been keeping all my follow-up emails but need to send that certified mail demand letter everyone's mentioning. Thanks for asking this question - saved me from potentially paying $780 in sales tax on money I never got!

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