I owe the IRS $2,000 after second job - will I face penalties?
So this is a first for me - I've always gotten money back from the IRS in previous years. I started driving for Uber on weekends last summer to help pay for my daughter's braces, and completely didn't think about the tax implications. No withholding, no quarterly payments, nothing. Just filed my taxes this week and discovered I owe about $2,000 to the feds. I've already paid the full amount through direct withdrawal, but I'm worried about penalties. Is the IRS going to hit me with additional fees since I didn't make estimated payments throughout the year? This is all new territory for me. Is there anything I can do at this point to reduce or eliminate penalties since I've already paid the full amount owed?
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Mateo Warren
The good news is you've already done the most important thing by filing and paying your taxes on time! The IRS is primarily concerned with getting their money by the deadline, which it sounds like you've handled. That said, there is a potential underpayment penalty that could apply. The IRS generally expects you to pay taxes throughout the year as you earn income, not just at filing time. However, there are some "safe harbors" that might protect you. If you paid at least 90% of this year's tax liability OR 100% of last year's tax liability through withholding from your primary job, you might avoid penalties. You could also look into Form 2210 "Underpayment of Estimated Tax" to see if you qualify for any penalty waivers. The IRS sometimes offers waivers for first-time underpayments or if you had a reasonable cause.
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Lydia Bailey
•Thanks for the response! My main job definitely didn't withhold enough to cover 90% of my total tax for this year. But I'm wondering about the "100% of last year's tax liability" part. My taxes last year were actually pretty simple and I got a small refund. Does that mean if my withholding this year was at least equal to my total tax from last year, I might be ok? Also, is the underpayment penalty typically a large amount? Just trying to budget in case I get hit with it.
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Mateo Warren
•Yes, that's exactly right! If the amount withheld from your main job in 2024 was at least 100% of your total tax liability for 2023, you should qualify for that safe harbor and avoid penalties - even though you ended up owing more this year because of the Uber income. The underpayment penalty is relatively modest compared to other tax penalties. It's basically an interest charge calculated on the amount you should have paid quarterly. Current rates are around 3-5% annually, so on $2,000, you might be looking at somewhere between $50-100 depending on how the IRS calculates it for your specific situation. If you do get a penalty notice, it would come separately after your return is processed.
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Sofia Price
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Alice Coleman
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Owen Jenkins
•I'm curious - does it help with estimating quarterly payments for next year too? That's what I'm struggling with for my side business. Never know how much to send in each quarter.
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Sofia Price
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Owen Jenkins
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Lilah Brooks
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Jackson Carter
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Kolton Murphy
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Lilah Brooks
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Kolton Murphy
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Evelyn Rivera
Here's a tip that many people don't know about: if this is your first time with an underpayment situation, you can often get the IRS to waive the penalty through what's called "First Time Penalty Abatement." You have to specifically ask for it though! I was in your exact situation 2 years ago with my side business. I called the IRS after I got the penalty notice (took forever to get through) and just politely explained that I didn't understand the quarterly payment requirements and asked if there was any relief available since I had always filed and paid on time before. They removed the entire penalty!
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Julia Hall
•Do you have to wait until they assess the penalty before requesting abatement? Or can you be proactive and request it when you file?
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Evelyn Rivera
•You generally need to wait until they assess the penalty before requesting abatement. The IRS typically sends a separate notice about penalties after processing your return. When you get that notice, that's when you should call and request the First Time Penalty Abatement. You can't really request it proactively when filing because the IRS needs to calculate the penalty first. The good news is that if you qualify, they'll usually grant it without much hassle as long as you've had a clean compliance record for the previous 3 years.
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Arjun Patel
Watch out for state taxes too! Everyone here is talking about federal, but depending on your state, you might owe there as well. I forgot about state taxes on my DoorDash income and got hit with penalties from both IRS and my state tax board.
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Jade Lopez
•This is such a good point. I'm in California and their underpayment penalties are actually worse than the federal ones. Had to pay almost 9% penalty on what I owed to the state.
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