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CosmicCrusader

How much will I have to pay for a tax penalty after missing quarterly estimates?

I'm in a bit of a panic right now. I switched from W-2 employment to freelancing last year and totally forgot about quarterly estimated tax payments. I made about $62,000 as a graphic designer, but didn't set aside anything for taxes or make any quarterly payments to the IRS. Now I'm worried about how much I'll owe in penalties on top of my regular tax bill. I've been using TurboTax to calculate my taxes and it's showing I owe around $9,800 in federal taxes, but it's not clear about the penalty amount. Does anyone know how the IRS calculates these penalties and what I can expect to pay? Is there any way to reduce the penalty or get it waived since this is my first year as self-employed? Really stressing out about this as I'm trying to get everything sorted before the filing deadline.

The IRS charges an underpayment penalty when you don't pay enough taxes throughout the year. For self-employment, you're supposed to make quarterly estimated payments if you expect to owe $1,000+ at tax time. The penalty is basically interest on the amount you should have paid each quarter. The IRS uses their interest rate (which changes quarterly) plus 3%. For 2024, this has been around 8-9%. It's calculated based on how much you underpaid and for how long. Some good news: First-time penalty relief might be available! The IRS has a "first-time abatement" policy where they might waive the penalty if you have a clean compliance history for the previous 3 years. You'd need to call them or include a letter with your return explaining the situation. Also, there's a "safe harbor" - if you pay at least 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000), you can avoid the penalty even without quarterly payments.

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Diego Flores

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Thank you for this info! Does the first-time abatement still apply if I've been filing taxes for years but this is just my first time having self-employment income? And do I have to specifically request this or will they automatically consider it?

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The first-time abatement applies to your situation! It doesn't matter that you've filed before - what matters is that you haven't had any penalties in the past three years. The IRS looks at your compliance history, not your employment type. You definitely need to request the abatement - it's not automatic. You can either call the IRS after receiving a penalty notice, or be proactive and attach a letter to your return explaining that you didn't understand the quarterly payment requirements as a new self-employed person and requesting first-time abatement. Include the phrase "first-time penalty abatement" specifically.

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Mateo Sanchez

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Don't forget about state penalties too! The federal underpayment penalty is one thing, but many states also charge their own penalties for missed estimated payments. Check your state tax requirements as soon as possible. In my experience, state penalties can sometimes be easier to get waived if you have a reasonable explanation. Many states have their own first-time abatement policies similar to the IRS.

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Aisha Mahmood

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Do you know if California has a first-time abatement program? I'm in the same boat as OP but worried about both federal and state penalties.

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Mateo Sanchez

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California doesn't have an official first-time abatement program like the IRS does. However, they do consider "reasonable cause" explanations for penalty relief. If you can demonstrate that you didn't understand the estimated tax requirements as a new self-employed taxpayer, they may reduce or waive the penalty. The best approach with California is to file on time, pay as much as you can with the return, and include a penalty abatement request letter explaining your situation. Be specific about why you didn't make estimated payments and emphasize that you've corrected your understanding for future tax years.

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Ethan Clark

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Something nobody mentioned yet - if you make a payment now before filing your return, it can reduce the penalty period! The underpayment penalty is calculated based on how long the money was late, so paying now stops the clock on additional penalties.

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AstroAce

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That's good to know! If I pay the full amount I estimate I owe before filing, will that completely stop additional penalties from accruing?

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