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Atticus Domingo

Dealing with Form 2210 for Underpayment of Tax - How to Avoid Penalties?

So I just realized I might be in trouble with the IRS because of underpayment of estimated taxes this year. I'm self-employed and my income was way higher than expected (about $78,000 compared to last year's $54,000). I didn't adjust my quarterly payments and now TurboTax is showing I need to fill out Form 2210 for underpayment of estimated tax. I'm freaking out a bit because there's a penalty calculation and I'm not sure how bad it's going to be. Has anyone dealt with this form before? Is there any way to get the penalty waived? I heard there might be exceptions if your income changed significantly or if it's your first time making this mistake. Also, if I pay the full amount I owe right now before filing, will that reduce the penalty at all? I'm planning to file by April 10th and can pay everything I owe immediately. Any advice would be really appreciated!!

Beth Ford

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You're not alone in this situation! Form 2210 is actually pretty common for self-employed folks whose income fluctuates. The good news is there are several ways to potentially reduce or eliminate the penalty. First, paying now before filing won't eliminate the penalty completely, but it will stop it from growing larger. The penalty is calculated based on how long the underpayment existed. There are exceptions that might help you. The IRS offers a waiver if you had a casualty, disaster, or other unusual circumstance. Also, if you earned a significant portion of your income late in the year, you might qualify for the "annualized income installment method" which could reduce your penalty. The form has different parts - the short method and regular method. The regular method takes longer to complete but might result in a lower penalty if your income was uneven throughout the year.

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Thanks for the info! What exactly is the "annualized income installment method"? My income was actually pretty uneven - I landed two big clients in the last quarter which is why my yearly income jumped so much.

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Beth Ford

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The annualized income installment method lets you calculate your required estimated tax payments based on when you actually received income during the year, rather than assuming your income was evenly distributed. For your situation with the two big clients in Q4, this method could be perfect. You'd complete Schedule AI of Form 2210, breaking down your income by periods (Jan-Mar, Jan-May, Jan-Aug, and Jan-Dec). Since a large chunk of your income came in the last quarter, this would show the IRS that your earlier underpayments were reasonable based on your income at those times. It's more work to complete, but could significantly reduce or eliminate your penalty.

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Paloma Clark

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Another option is to make sure you meet the safe harbor requirements for next year to avoid this problem entirely. If your AGI is under $150k, you need to pay either 90% of this year's tax or 100% of last year's tax through withholding/estimated payments. If AGI is over $150k, it's 90% of current year or 110% of last year. Personally, I always go with paying 100% or 110% of last year's tax because it's a known number and protects me from surprises. Just take your total tax from last year, divide by 4, and that's your quarterly payment amount.

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That's really helpful for going forward. But for this year, if I've already underpaid, is there any advantage to paying the remaining balance before I file versus at the time I file?

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Paloma Clark

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For your current situation, paying before you file won't eliminate the underpayment penalty that's already accrued, but it will stop additional interest from accruing. The Form 2210 penalty is calculated through April 15th (or your filing date if earlier). What you might want to check is if you qualify for any of the penalty exceptions. For example, if you paid at least 90% of the tax shown on your return for each quarter, or if your tax due is less than $1,000, you might avoid the penalty. Also, look at whether withholding might help - the IRS treats withholding as if it was paid evenly throughout the year, even if it wasn't.

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Heather Tyson

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My accountant told me that the IRS has a first-time penalty abatement policy! If you haven't had any penalties in the past 3 tax years, you can often get the underpayment penalty waived completely. You have to specifically request this though - they don't offer it automatically. Worth a shot if this is your first time with this issue.

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Raul Neal

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The first-time penalty abatement usually doesn't apply to estimated tax penalties (Form 2210). It typically applies to failure-to-file and failure-to-pay penalties. Estimated tax penalties are considered different because they're not just about timely filing/payment but about making required payments throughout the year.

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