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How did I end up owing $8,000 in federal taxes with zero withholding as a single filer?

So I'm completely shocked right now. I just finished doing my taxes and somehow I owe $7,800 in federal taxes. I'm single, claim 0 allowances on my W-4, and have never owed before. I always get refunds! I started a new job last April making about $85k, and I noticed my paychecks seemed higher than expected, but I figured they were just calculating things differently from my old employer. Now I realize they weren't withholding ANY federal taxes at all! I checked my pay stubs and there's literally $0 for federal withholding on all of them. I immediately updated my W-4 today and added an additional $650/month to be withheld, but I'm freaking out about how I'm going to pay this massive bill. I have about $3k in savings, but nowhere near enough to cover this. Has anyone else had this happen? Is there some payment plan I can get on with the IRS? I'm totally stressed and don't understand how this even happened in the first place.

Javier Garcia

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This definitely sounds like a W-4 error or payroll system mistake. When you started your new job, you should have filled out a new W-4 form. The 2020 and newer W-4 forms no longer use "allowances" - instead you claim dependents or additional deductions directly. What likely happened is either: 1) you accidentally checked the box for "exempt" on your W-4, 2) the payroll department entered your information incorrectly, or 3) there was a system error that didn't process your withholding correctly. The good news is that the IRS offers payment plans for situations exactly like yours. You can apply for an installment agreement online through the IRS website. For amounts under $10,000, it's usually automatically approved if you can pay it off within 36 months. The setup fee is around $31 if you agree to direct debit payments. Interest and penalties will continue to accrue, but it's much better than trying to pay it all at once. I'd also recommend speaking with your HR or payroll department to understand exactly what happened so you can prevent this from occurring again.

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Emma Taylor

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Thanks for the info! How much are the penalties and interest usually? And do you know if there's a way to get them waived if this was completely the employer's fault?

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Javier Garcia

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The IRS charges interest that compounds daily at the federal short-term rate plus 3% (currently around 7-8% annually). The failure-to-pay penalty is typically 0.5% of the unpaid taxes per month, but it's capped at 25% of your unpaid taxes. Unfortunately, penalties aren't typically waived just because your employer made a mistake. The IRS considers it your responsibility to check your pay stubs and verify proper withholding. However, if you've had a good compliance history (filing and paying on time for previous years), you might qualify for "First Time Abatement" which could waive some penalties. This doesn't affect the interest, which still accrues, but it can reduce your overall bill substantially.

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Chloe Wilson

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Check if your employer is withholding state taxes too! I had a similar issue last year where they weren't taking out federal OR state taxes. Fixed the federal part but completely forgot about state and got hit with another bill later. Don't make my mistake!

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NebulaNomad

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OMG thank you for mentioning this! I just checked my pay stubs and they ARE withholding state taxes, but I hadn't even thought to check. That's at least one relief in this mess.

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Diego Mendoza

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Another option to consider - you might qualify for an Offer in Compromise if you truly can't pay the full amount. The IRS will sometimes settle for less than what you owe if you can prove financial hardship. Their pre-qualifier tool on the IRS website can help you determine if you're eligible.

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This is terrible advice for this situation. Offers in Compromise are extremely difficult to qualify for and usually only apply when someone has no hope of ever paying the full amount due to permanent financial hardship. With an $85k salary, OP almost certainly wouldn't qualify. An installment plan is much more appropriate.

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