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Ruby Knight

Found out I owe $13K in Federal Taxes because nothing was withheld since July... help?

I just finished looking at my tax situation for this year and I'm freaking out a bit. Turns out I owe approximately $13,000 in federal taxes because somehow there were ZERO federal taxes taken out of my paychecks from July through December. I didn't notice it was happening until I sat down to do my taxes yesterday. I checked all my pay stubs and sure enough, there was proper withholding from January to June, then absolutely nothing for the second half of the year. I think there was some mistake when our company switched payroll systems over the summer. I'm pretty sure I didn't change my W-4 or anything that would cause this. Is there any way to explain to the IRS that this was a payroll error and not me trying to avoid paying taxes? I honestly had no idea this was happening. Can I get some kind of payment plan or penalty reduction since it wasn't intentional? I definitely don't have $13K sitting around to pay this bill all at once.

This definitely sounds like a payroll system error rather than anything you did wrong. The good news is the IRS generally has reasonable options for situations like yours. First, you should contact your employer's payroll department immediately to confirm what happened. Get documentation that shows the error wasn't your doing. Ask them to provide a letter explaining the system change and the withholding mistake that occurred. For the IRS, you absolutely can set up a payment plan. The IRS offers both short-term payment plans (180 days or less) and long-term installment agreements. The application process is straightforward through the IRS website. You'll still need to file your return on time and pay what you can by the deadline to minimize penalties and interest. Regarding penalties, you might qualify for penalty abatement under "reasonable cause" given this was a payroll system error outside your control. The documentation from your employer will be crucial here. You'll need to make this request separately after you've set up your payment plan.

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Ruby Knight

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Thank you for this info! Quick question - should I talk to the payroll department before or after filing my taxes? And do you think they would be willing to help cover any of the penalties since it was their mistake?

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Contact your payroll department right away, before filing if possible, but don't delay your filing just to wait for their response. Getting their documentation will help with penalty abatement requests later, but you still need to file on time. As for your employer covering penalties, that's worth discussing with them. Some employers might be willing to help if it was clearly their error, especially if it affected multiple employees. This isn't required of them legally, but many companies recognize when fairness suggests they should help fix a problem they created.

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Logan Stewart

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Mikayla Brown

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How accurate was their analysis though? I've had tax software mess up before and give me completely wrong advice. Does it actually understand payroll withholding errors or is it just generic templates?

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Sean Matthews

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Sounds interesting but I'm confused about how it works. Do you talk to an actual tax professional or is it all automated? And did the IRS actually accept the letter it generated for you?

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Logan Stewart

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Their analysis was surprisingly accurate - it identified exactly where the withholding error occurred and calculated the correct amounts that should have been withheld based on my W-4 information. It's specifically designed to catch these kinds of payroll discrepancies. It's primarily automated AI analysis, but there's a review system where you can get feedback on the results. And yes, the IRS did accept the explanation letter it generated - I submitted it along with my payment plan application and received approval with reduced penalties. The letter cited specific IRS procedures for handling employer withholding errors, which I think made a big difference.

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Zadie Patel

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This sounds like complete BS honestly. If it was that easy to get through to the IRS, everyone would be doing it. They're probably just taking your money and you're still waiting just as long. The IRS doesn't have special lines for third parties.

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Ali Anderson

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I need to apologize and correct myself. After dismissing Claimyr as BS, I decided to try it myself since I've been trying to reach the IRS about a similar withholding issue for weeks. To my complete surprise, it actually worked exactly as described. I received a call back in about 45 minutes saying my connection with an IRS agent was about to happen. I spoke with an actual IRS representative who was able to set up my payment plan and note the withholding error in my file. The agent told me to submit a formal penalty abatement request with my employer's documentation, but said it had a good chance of approval given the circumstances. They also mentioned this type of withholding error has been more common with companies switching payroll systems recently. For anyone dealing with a similar issue - being able to actually speak with someone makes a huge difference versus trying to figure everything out through the website.

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Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but you should also ask your employer if they can issue a corrected W-2. If they acknowledge it was their payroll system error, they might be willing to handle the employer portion of the taxes that should have been withheld. Had a similar issue at my last job and the company actually covered about 40% of what I owed since it was their mistake.

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Ruby Knight

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Wait, can employers actually do that? I assumed once the year was over, all the tax stuff was set in stone. Can they really go back and fix withholding errors after the fact?

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They can't change the actual withholding after the year ends, but there are a couple of options. First, they can issue a corrected W-2 if there were actual errors in reporting. More practically though, some employers will provide compensation to cover tax liabilities resulting from their payroll errors - basically paying you an additional amount to offset some of your tax burden. This isn't required by law, but many companies have policies for this since payroll errors can cause significant financial hardship for employees. It's worth having a conversation with both HR and payroll about their error resolution policies. Document everything, be polite but firm that this was their error, and ask what they can do to help make it right.

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Emma Morales

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Something similar happened to me last year. Make sure when you file that you check if you qualify for the "Estimated Tax Penalty" waiver - Form 2210. There's a special waiver if your withholding was done correctly in the beginning of the year but then stopped. You'll still owe the taxes but might get the underpayment penalty waived.

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Exactly this! The IRS calls it a "Waiver of Penalty Due to Federally Declared Disaster, Mathematical or Clerical Error by the IRS, or Certain Other Conditions" (Part II of Form 2210). A payroll system error could qualify under certain conditions!

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