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Miguel Diaz

How to Remove a Federal Tax Lien After the Death of a Relative

I'm exhausted with this ongoing tax lien situation. My uncle passed away about 2 years ago, and he apparently had some unpaid federal taxes but no estate assets to cover them. We've been communicating with the IRS repeatedly trying to get this debt dismissed since there's nothing to collect from, but it's like talking to a wall. What's weird is we've been getting letters from different IRS offices all over the country - Florida one week, California the next. Super confusing. Then suddenly last month, we got bombarded with about 15 different letters from "tax lien relief" companies all offering to negotiate with the IRS for us. The amounts they're quoting seem way off from what I think was actually owed (around $14,500 based on the last IRS notice). Some of these companies specifically mention the county where my uncle lived. I tried searching our state's lien database but couldn't find anything. At this point, it's just becoming a huge headache for my aunt who's still alive and shouldn't have to deal with this. I just want to find out more details about this supposed lien and get it removed completely. How do I even confirm if there's actually a lien filed? And if there is, what's the process for getting it removed when there's literally no money or assets to collect? Any guidance would be super appreciated!

Zainab Ahmed

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Having dealt with similar situations before, I can help clarify some things. When companies suddenly start sending you tax lien relief offers, it usually means a Notice of Federal Tax Lien was recently filed in the county where your uncle lived. These companies monitor public records and then reach out to offer their services. The discrepancy in the amount might be because the original tax debt has accumulated penalties and interest over the two years. The fact that you're getting communications from different IRS offices is common - cases get transferred between departments and service centers during the collections process. For your next steps, I'd recommend three things: First, call the IRS Centralized Lien Operation at 800-913-6050 to verify if a lien has actually been filed and get the exact amount. Second, request a "Certificate of Discharge" if there truly are no assets. Third, you might qualify for what's called a "lien withdrawal" under certain circumstances, especially if your uncle had no estate assets.

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Miguel Diaz

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Thanks for this info. Would getting a Certificate of Discharge completely remove the lien or just release specific property? I'm confused because my uncle didn't own anything when he passed - no house, no car, basically just personal belongings. So I'm not sure what the lien would even be attached to at this point. Also, do you know if these tax lien relief companies get access to the actual amount owed? It's strange that they're all quoting different figures.

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Zainab Ahmed

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A Certificate of Discharge would remove the lien from specific property, but in a case like yours where there are no assets, you'd want to pursue a lien withdrawal instead. This completely removes the public notice of the lien. Since there are no assets to collect against, you have a good case for requesting this under IRC Section 6323(j). The relief companies don't have access to the actual amount owed - they only see the public lien filing which shows a figure that might include estimated penalties and interest. That's why they're quoting different amounts. They're just making educated guesses based on limited information, which is why they all have different figures.

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Oliver Becker

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Check if your uncle had any life insurance policies or retirement accounts. Those typically pass outside of probate and might be what the IRS is targeting with the lien. I've seen cases where deceased individuals had no "estate" but did have a 401k or life insurance that passed to beneficiaries, and the IRS filed liens to try to collect from those assets.

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Miguel Diaz

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. He did have a small life insurance policy that paid out to my aunt directly. Could the IRS be going after that even though it was paid out almost 2 years ago? And if so, would my aunt be liable for his tax debt now?

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Oliver Becker

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Yes, that's likely exactly what they're targeting. The IRS has up to 10 years to collect on tax debts, so the 2-year timeframe doesn't matter to them. Life insurance proceeds that go directly to beneficiaries generally aren't subject to the deceased's creditors, but tax debts can sometimes be an exception. Your aunt isn't personally liable for his tax debt, but the IRS might be trying to collect from those life insurance proceeds. That's probably why you're suddenly getting all these lien relief letters - the IRS likely just filed the lien hoping to collect against those proceeds. I recommend having your aunt contact a tax attorney for a consultation about this specific situation since life insurance proceeds have special rules.

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CosmicCowboy

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Has anyone actually tried calling the county clerk's office? When I had a similar issue, I found out that the lien information can sometimes be accessed through the county recorder's office rather than the state database. They might be able to confirm if a lien was filed and give you the exact filing date and amount.

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This is excellent advice. I work in real estate and we deal with tax liens frequently. County records are often more up-to-date than state databases. Call the recorder's office in the county where your uncle lived and ask them to search for federal tax liens under his name.

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Grace Johnson

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I've been through a similar situation with my father's estate. One thing that might help is to request a complete transcript of your uncle's tax account from the IRS by filing Form 4506-T. This will show you the exact timeline of what happened - when the original taxes were assessed, what penalties and interest have been added, and most importantly, when any collection actions were taken. Also, since you mentioned getting letters from different IRS offices, this could indicate that the case has been bouncing around their system. Sometimes when there's confusion about collectibility (like in cases with no assets), different departments will review the case multiple times. The sudden influx of relief company letters strongly suggests a lien was recently filed publicly. One more tip - if your uncle truly had no assets and this is just an uncollectible debt, you might want to look into requesting "Currently Not Collectible" status for the estate. This essentially puts the collection on hold indefinitely when there are no assets to pursue. It doesn't eliminate the debt, but it stops active collection efforts and can sometimes lead to lien withdrawal.

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Andre Dupont

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I went through almost the exact same situation with my grandmother's estate last year. The key thing that helped me was getting organized with all the documentation first. Here's what I'd recommend: 1. Get Form 4506-T filed immediately to get the complete account transcript - this will show you exactly what's owed and when everything was assessed. 2. Call the county recorder's office where your uncle lived and ask them to search for any federal tax liens under his name. They can give you the exact filing date and amount on record. 3. Since your uncle had no estate assets, you'll want to focus on Form 12277 (Application for Withdrawal of Filed Form 668(Y)) rather than just a discharge. A withdrawal completely removes the public record of the lien. 4. Don't waste money on those relief companies - they're just going to do what you can do yourself for free. They're all quoting different amounts because they're guessing based on limited public information. The life insurance policy that went to your aunt is likely what triggered the recent lien filing. Even though it passed outside probate, the IRS sometimes files liens hoping to collect against those proceeds. Your aunt isn't personally liable for the debt, but you'll want to address this properly to protect her. Document everything and be persistent with the IRS. It took me about 4 months to get everything resolved, but the lien was completely withdrawn once I had all the right paperwork in order.

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