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Lydia Santiago

What actually happens if no one files a deceased person's tax return?

So my uncle passed away last month and nobody in the family wants to deal with his taxes. He was single, never married, and didn't have kids. I think he was self-employed doing some kind of consulting work but we're not totally sure about his finances. The thing is, none of us were really close with him and honestly we don't know what kind of financial situation he left behind. No one has officially been named the executor of his estate as far as I know. His apartment was rented and he didn't own property, but I'm wondering what happens with his final tax return? Will the IRS eventually come after family members if no one files his last return? Do they have ways of knowing someone died? I'm getting worried that our family might get in trouble if we just ignore this. Has anyone had experience with this situation? How long before the IRS notices and what do they do?

Romeo Quest

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This is a common concern. When someone passes away, their final tax return should technically be filed by the executor of their estate. If there's no formal executor, it falls to whoever is handling their affairs or inheriting their assets. The IRS does eventually find out about deaths through Social Security Administration records. If your uncle was owed a refund, that money stays with the government if no one files. If he owed taxes, the IRS can make a claim against his estate (whatever assets he left behind), but they generally can't come after family members personally for his tax debts unless you were financially entangled with him. That said, someone should probably file his final return. The person who does this would file a Form 1040 for the deceased person for the period from January 1 until his date of death. They should write "DECEASED" across the top with his date of death.

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Val Rossi

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So if the family doesn't file, the IRS can only go after whatever assets he left behind? What if we don't know what those assets are? Like what if he had a bank account we don't know about?

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Romeo Quest

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The IRS will only be able to make claims against his estate, not against family members personally. If there are unknown bank accounts or assets, those would still be considered part of his estate. Banks and financial institutions are required to report abandoned accounts eventually, which might lead to the discovery of those assets. Regarding unknown assets, you might want to check with his mail for any financial statements or do a search for unclaimed property in his name through your state's unclaimed property division website. This could help identify accounts you weren't aware of.

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Rudy Cenizo

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Something to keep in mind is that if your uncle had any valuable assets (like stocks, property, life insurance with named beneficiaries), those might need to be reported for estate tax purposes depending on their total value. Even if you don't file his income tax return, you shouldn't ignore potential estate tax obligations.

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Thanks for bringing that up! Do you know what the threshold is for having to file an estate tax return? My uncle didn't have much but I think he had a small life insurance policy.

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Rudy Cenizo

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For federal estate taxes, the exemption is very high - $12.92 million for 2023, and probably higher for 2024. So unless your uncle had assets exceeding that amount, you likely don't need to worry about federal estate taxes. State estate taxes have much lower thresholds in some states though, ranging from $1 million to $7 million depending on the state. Some states don't have estate taxes at all. A life insurance policy would count toward this total if your uncle owned the policy himself, but there might be exclusions depending on your state.

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Natalie Khan

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Has anyone dealt with unclaimed refunds for a deceased person? My cousin passed 3 years ago and we just found out he was owed a big refund that was never claimed. Is there a process for that?

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Romeo Quest

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Yes, there definitely is! As a family member, you can file Form 1310 "Statement of Person Claiming Refund Due a Deceased Taxpayer" along with the final tax return if it wasn't filed yet. If it's been 3 years since the return was due, you're cutting it close though - the IRS generally only allows claims for refunds within 3 years of the original due date. You should file immediately if you want to try to claim it. You'll also need to establish who has the legal right to the refund (usually determined by state law or by who's administering the estate).

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Miguel Castro

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now with my father's estate. One thing I learned is that even if no one files the return, the IRS penalty for late filing is actually reduced to zero if no taxes are owed. However, if your uncle was self-employed, there's a good chance he might owe self-employment taxes even if his income was low. You might want to start by gathering any 1099s or other tax documents that might have been mailed to his address. If he was doing consulting work, clients who paid him more than $600 should have sent 1099-NEC forms. The IRS gets copies of these too, so they'll know about that income even if no return is filed. Also, check if your state has any separate filing requirements for deceased persons - some states have different rules than the federal government. It's usually worth filing even if you think he didn't owe anything, just to close out his tax obligations cleanly.

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This is really helpful information, thank you! I hadn't thought about the self-employment tax angle. Do you know if there's a way to find out what 1099s were issued to him without having access to his mail? We're not sure if his mail is still being delivered to his apartment or if it's been forwarded somewhere else. Is there a way to request copies of tax documents from the IRS directly?

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