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How to Handle an IRS Dishonored Payment Penalty Under Code Section 6657

I just got a CP14 notice for my 2023 taxes with two penalties slapped on me: 1. Failure to Pay (code section 6651) 2. Dishonored Check or other form of payment (code section 6657) Here's what's driving me crazy - I filed on time using TurboTax and set up direct debit from my checking account. I've checked my bank statements and I definitely had more than enough money in my account when the payment was supposed to go through! For some reason, the payment never processed, so I went straight to the IRS website and paid everything using the same account (which worked fine that time). I called the IRS and they were actually helpful with removing the Failure to Pay penalty over the phone. But for the Dishonored Check penalty, they said I can't get that removed over the phone and need to send a written letter. I'm confused about how to write this letter and where to send it. Does anyone have experience with this? Should I pay the penalty now and then send the dispute letter, or should I wait to see if they approve my request first? Any help would be super appreciated!

Ravi Kapoor

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Having dealt with these issues before, I can help walk you through the process. For a dishonored payment penalty under Section 6657, you'll need to submit a penalty abatement request letter with supporting documentation. First, you should definitely include a copy of your bank statement showing sufficient funds were available when the payment was supposed to process. Address your letter to the same IRS address shown on your CP14 notice. In your letter, clearly explain that you had sufficient funds, include your bank statement as proof, and reference that you promptly paid the full amount once you discovered the issue. As for whether to pay the penalty first - I generally recommend paying it to stop additional interest from accruing. The IRS will refund the amount if they approve your abatement request. Make sure you reference your tax year, Social Security number, and the specific notice (CP14) in your letter.

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Freya Nielsen

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Thanks for the detailed info! How long does the IRS typically take to process these types of requests? And do you know if there's a specific form I need to use or can I just write a regular letter explaining what happened?

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Ravi Kapoor

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The IRS typically takes 30-60 days to process penalty abatement requests, but it can sometimes take longer during busy periods like tax season. You don't need a specific form for this type of request. A regular letter clearly explaining the situation is sufficient. Just make sure to include your identifying information (name, address, SSN, tax year), reference the CP14 notice number, cite the penalty code section (6657), explain that you had sufficient funds, and include your bank statement as evidence. I'd also mention that you've already paid the full tax amount promptly once you discovered the issue.

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Omar Mahmoud

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Chloe Harris

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Does this service also help with other types of penalties? I got hit with a late filing penalty even though I mailed my return a week before the deadline. Would something like that work with this service too?

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Diego Vargas

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I'm always skeptical of these services. How much does it cost? And do they actually have qualified tax professionals reviewing the documents or is it just some automated system spitting out form letters?

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Omar Mahmoud

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Chloe Harris

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NeonNinja

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Wait, how does this even work? I thought the IRS phone system was just a nightmare for everyone. How can a third-party service get you through faster? Seems fishy.

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Sean Murphy

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Yeah right. There's no way this actually works. I've spent literal DAYS of my life on hold with the IRS and you're telling me some random service can magically get me through? I'll believe it when I see it.

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NeonNinja

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Sean Murphy

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Zara Khan

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Don't forget to include IRS Form 843 (Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement) with your letter! I had a similar issue with a dishonored payment penalty and my first attempt was rejected because I didn't include this form. The letter alone isn't always enough for Section 6657 penalties.

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CosmicVoyager

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Thanks for mentioning this! I didn't know about Form 843. Is there anything specific I need to fill out on this form? And do I still need to write a separate letter explaining the situation or does the form replace the need for a letter?

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Zara Khan

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You'll still need to write the letter explaining your situation in detail, but Form 843 is the official request mechanism. On the form, check box 4a for "Interest caused by IRS errors or delays" and 4b for "Penalty or addition to tax." In section 5, write "Dishonored Payment Penalty under IRC 6657" and briefly explain that your account had sufficient funds. The letter should accompany the form as supporting documentation where you can provide all the details and include copies of your bank statements. Make sure to fill out the taxpayer information section completely and sign/date the form. Without this official form, they often just file your letter without processing it as a formal abatement request.

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Luca Ferrari

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Has anyone successfully had this penalty removed? I'm in the same boat with a Section 6657 penalty. My payment was rejected because my bank was doing system maintenance during the exact window when the IRS tried to process it (just my luck). I've already mailed my letter with bank statements 3 weeks ago but haven't heard anything back.

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Nia Davis

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I got a Section 6657 penalty removed last year! My letter included bank statements showing sufficient funds and an explanation letter. Took about 8 weeks to get a response, but they removed the penalty completely. Be patient - the IRS is slooooow with correspondence.

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Pro tip: If you decide to pay the penalty while waiting for abatement (which I recommend to stop interest), make sure to clearly mark your payment as "Section 6657 Penalty Payment" so it doesn't get applied to next year's taxes or something else. I learned this the hard way when my penalty payment got misapplied and created another headache.

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I went through this exact same situation last year and successfully got my Section 6657 penalty removed! Here's what worked for me: 1. **Write a clear, professional letter** explaining that you had sufficient funds when the payment was supposed to process. Include your name, SSN, tax year, and the CP14 notice number. 2. **Attach bank statements** showing your account balance on the date the payment was supposed to be processed. Highlight the relevant dates and amounts. 3. **Include Form 843** as others mentioned - this is crucial for the formal abatement request. 4. **Send everything to the address on your CP14 notice** via certified mail so you have proof of delivery. 5. **Consider paying the penalty now** to stop interest from accruing. If approved, they'll refund it with interest. In my case, it took about 6 weeks to get a response, but they removed the penalty completely. The key is showing you had sufficient funds and that the payment failure wasn't due to your negligence. Since you can prove you had adequate funds and immediately paid when you discovered the issue, you have a strong case. Don't give up - these penalties can definitely be removed with proper documentation!

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I went through this exact same situation with a Section 6657 penalty last year! The frustration is real when you know you had the funds but the payment somehow failed to process. Here's what worked for me: I wrote a detailed letter explaining that I had sufficient funds available when the payment was supposed to process, included copies of my bank statements showing the account balance on that date, and attached Form 843 (Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement) as the formal request mechanism. The key is being very specific about dates and amounts. In my letter, I highlighted the exact date the payment was supposed to process, the account balance on that date, and when I discovered the issue and made the payment successfully. I also mentioned that I filed my return on time and that the payment failure was not due to any negligence on my part. I sent everything via certified mail to the address on my CP14 notice and paid the penalty upfront to stop interest from accruing. It took about 7 weeks, but they completely removed the penalty and refunded the amount I had paid. Don't get discouraged - these penalties are definitely removable when you can prove you had sufficient funds and acted promptly to resolve the issue once you became aware of it!

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Connor Byrne

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This is really encouraging to hear! I'm dealing with the same situation right now and was worried the IRS wouldn't be reasonable about it. Quick question - when you say you highlighted the exact dates and amounts in your letter, did you reference specific line items from your bank statement or just mention the overall account balance? I want to make sure I'm being detailed enough without overwhelming them with information. Also, did you include any other supporting documentation besides the bank statements and Form 843, or was that sufficient?

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Great question! I was specific about the dates but didn't go overboard with details. In my letter, I referenced something like "My bank statement shows an available balance of $X,XXX on [specific date] when the IRS attempted to process my payment of $XXX." I highlighted the relevant dates on the bank statement copy itself rather than listing every transaction. Besides the bank statements and Form 843, I also included a copy of the CP14 notice and a brief timeline showing when I filed my return, when the payment was supposed to process, and when I discovered the issue and paid manually. I kept it to 2 pages total - detailed enough to prove my case but concise enough that they'd actually read it. The IRS agent I spoke with earlier said they see these situations frequently with electronic payments, so as long as you can clearly demonstrate you had sufficient funds and acted promptly, you should be in good shape. Keep it straightforward and factual!

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Emma Thompson

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I just went through this exact same penalty abatement process for a Section 6657 dishonored payment penalty and wanted to share what worked for me! Like you, I had sufficient funds in my account when the IRS tried to process my payment, but something went wrong on their end. Here's the approach that got my penalty completely removed: **My successful strategy:** 1. **Paid the penalty immediately** to stop interest from accumulating (they'll refund it if approved) 2. **Used Form 843** as the official abatement request mechanism - this is critical 3. **Wrote a concise but detailed letter** explaining the situation, referencing my SSN, tax year, and CP14 notice number 4. **Included highlighted bank statements** showing my account balance exceeded the payment amount on the processing date 5. **Sent everything certified mail** to the address on my CP14 notice The key was being factual and specific about dates while keeping the letter professional and to the point. I emphasized that I had sufficient funds, filed on time, and paid immediately upon discovering the issue - basically proving it wasn't due to my negligence. It took about 6 weeks to get approval, but they removed the penalty entirely and refunded what I had paid. Don't lose hope - these situations are more common than you'd think with electronic payments, and the IRS is generally reasonable when you can document that you had the funds available.

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Adriana Cohn

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This is exactly the kind of detailed roadmap I was hoping to find! Thank you for breaking down the successful strategy so clearly. I'm particularly glad to hear that paying the penalty upfront to stop interest accumulation worked out well for you - I was torn about whether to do that or wait. One quick follow-up question: when you highlighted the bank statements, did you use a physical highlighter on printed copies, or did you annotate them digitally? I want to make sure my documentation is as clear and professional as possible when I submit everything. Also really appreciate the reminder about certified mail - that's definitely something I wouldn't have thought of but makes total sense for something this important.

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Zara Malik

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I went through this exact situation last year and successfully got my Section 6657 penalty removed! The process can be frustrating, but it's definitely doable when you have the right documentation. Here's what I learned from my experience: The IRS is actually pretty reasonable about these penalties when you can clearly demonstrate that the payment failure wasn't due to insufficient funds or negligence on your part. Since you filed on time, had adequate funds, and paid immediately once you discovered the issue, you have a strong case. For the letter itself, keep it professional but straightforward. Start with your identifying information (name, SSN, tax year, CP14 notice number), clearly state that you're requesting abatement of the Section 6657 penalty, and explain that you had sufficient funds when the payment was supposed to process. Include the date your payment was supposed to go through and the date you successfully made the payment once you discovered the issue. The bank statements are crucial - make sure they clearly show your account balance on the date the IRS attempted to process your payment. I'd also recommend including Form 843 (Claim for Refund and Request for Abatement) as the formal mechanism for your request. Regarding payment timing, I'd suggest paying the penalty now to stop interest from accruing. The IRS will refund it with interest if they approve your abatement request. Send everything via certified mail to the address on your CP14 notice. In my case, it took about 7 weeks to get a response, but they completely removed the penalty. Stay patient and persistent - you've got this!

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Zara Shah

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This is such helpful advice! I'm in a very similar situation right now - my payment failed even though I had plenty of funds, and I'm feeling overwhelmed by the whole process. Your step-by-step breakdown really helps clarify what I need to do. I'm particularly nervous about the letter writing part since I've never had to dispute anything with the IRS before. When you mention keeping it "professional but straightforward," do you have any suggestions for specific language or tone to use? I want to make sure I come across as credible without sounding too formal or legalistic. Also, quick question about the timeline - you mentioned it took 7 weeks to get a response. Did you receive any kind of acknowledgment that they received your submission, or did you just have to wait until you heard back with their decision? Thanks so much for sharing your experience - it's really reassuring to know this penalty can actually be removed with the right approach!

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