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How to Handle IRS CP14 Notice with Dishonored Check Penalty (Code Section 6657)

I just received a CP14 notice for my 2023 taxes with two penalties slapped on me - Failure to Pay (code 6651) and Dishonored Check or other form of payment (code 6657). I'm seriously confused because I filed on time through TurboTax and set up direct debit from my checking account. I've checked my bank statements and definitely had more than enough funds when the payment was supposed to process. For some weird reason, the payment never went through. Once I realized this happened, I immediately went to the IRS payment website and paid everything using the same bank account (which worked fine that time!). I called the IRS and they were actually helpful about removing the Failure to Pay penalty over the phone. But for the Dishonored Check penalty, they said they can't handle it by phone and I need to send a written letter requesting abatement. I have no clue about this letter-writing process. What address should I use? Is there a specific format I need to follow? Should I pay the penalty now and then try to get reimbursed, or wait for their decision before paying? Any advice from someone who's dealt with this dishonored payment code 6657 situation before would be super helpful! This is my first time dealing with this kind of mess.

This is actually more common than you might think! The IRS's direct debit system sometimes has glitches that aren't your fault. For the letter, you'll want to include: your name, address, social security number, tax year (2023), and the CP14 notice number. Explain exactly what happened - that you had sufficient funds, the payment was properly set up in TurboTax, and provide a copy of your bank statement showing the available balance on the intended payment date. Address your letter to the exact address shown on your CP14 notice for correspondence (it's usually in the top right corner). Make sure to specifically request abatement of the Section 6657 penalty due to the fact that the payment failure wasn't your fault. As for paying, I generally recommend paying the penalty amount before sending the letter. This stops additional interest from accruing while you wait for their response. If they approve the abatement, they'll refund the penalty amount plus any interest on it.

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Would it help to include a screenshot from TurboTax showing the payment was set up correctly? Also, how long does this process typically take? I'm worried about the IRS taking collection actions while waiting for a response.

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Including a screenshot from TurboTax showing the payment setup would absolutely strengthen your case. Anything that documents you made a legitimate attempt to pay on time helps establish reasonable cause. The process typically takes 30-60 days for them to review and respond. Don't worry too much about collection actions during this period - once you've paid the current balance (even while disputing the penalty), the IRS generally won't pursue collections. Just keep a copy of everything you send them and consider using certified mail so you have proof of when they received your request.

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Does this actually work with complicated penalty issues? I tried using template letters before and got nowhere with the IRS. Also, do they help with state tax issues or just federal?

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I'm skeptical about these online tools. How is this different from just using a template letter you can find online for free? The IRS usually wants specific documentation for these types of issues.

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How exactly does this service work? Do they just connect you with the IRS faster? I've been trying to get through for weeks about my penalty issue.

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This sounds too good to be true. The IRS phone lines are notoriously impossible to get through. How could some external service possibly get you connected that quickly? And no way they would resolve a penalty issue in one call.

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Have you checked if you qualify for First Time Penalty Abatement (FTA)? If you've had a clean tax record for the past 3 years (filed and paid on time), you might automatically qualify regardless of the reason for the dishonored payment. That's probably the easiest route. In your letter, specifically state that you're requesting "abatement of the Section 6657 penalty under First Time Penalty Abatement policy AND reasonable cause due to the direct debit error that was not due to insufficient funds." I'd include these documents: - Copy of the CP14 notice - Bank statement showing sufficient funds - TurboTax confirmation showing the payment was scheduled - Brief, clear explanation of what happened

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Thanks for this suggestion! Would the First Time Abatement apply even though they already abated the Failure to Pay penalty? I've always filed and paid on time for the last several years.

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Yes, the First Time Abatement can still apply even though they already removed the Failure to Pay penalty. Sometimes the IRS representatives don't check for FTA eligibility on the phone for certain penalty types. In fact, it's common for them to apply FTA to the entire notice when you request it properly in writing, even if they've already removed part of the penalties through another method. Just make sure to clearly request both grounds for abatement (FTA and reasonable cause) in your letter to give yourself the best chance for approval. The reasonable cause argument about the payment system error serves as your backup if for some reason you don't qualify for FTA.

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Just wanted to add that you should make a copy of EVERYTHING before sending it to the IRS. I learned this the hard way when they claimed they never received my abatement request. Also, if possible, send your letter via certified mail with return receipt. It costs a few extra bucks but gives you proof they received it. Will the penalty amount keep increasing while you wait for their response? if its a small amount, might be easier to just pay it and be done :

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The penalty amount itself won't increase, but they'll continue charging interest on the unpaid penalty amount. The interest is pretty low though - around 3-4% annually. So on a small penalty like $100, you're talking about less than a dollar of interest per month.

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago! The IRS direct debit system definitely has issues that aren't your fault. Here's what worked for me: 1. **Document everything**: Get a letter from your bank confirming you had sufficient funds on the payment date. Many banks will provide this for free if you explain it's for IRS penalty abatement. 2. **Be specific in your letter**: Don't just say "payment failed" - explain that you set up electronic payment through TurboTax, had sufficient funds, and the failure appears to be a system error since the same account worked when you paid manually later. 3. **Include the magic words**: Specifically request abatement under "reasonable cause" due to circumstances beyond your control. The IRS looks for this exact language. 4. **Timeline matters**: Since you paid immediately after discovering the issue, make sure to emphasize this in your letter. It shows good faith effort to comply. I got my $180 penalty completely removed using this approach. The whole process took about 6 weeks from when I mailed the letter. Don't let them keep money that's rightfully yours - this is definitely worth fighting!

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