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Yuki Tanaka

How to Combine Section 1031 and 121 Exclusions for Real Estate Transactions

My parents purchased their home about 12 years ago for around $650k and it's now worth approximately $1.8 million. My husband and I are trying to figure out how to help them minimize taxes while also helping us with our housing situation for a couple years. Their plan is to move to a rental in an area they prefer, rent their current house to us for about 2 years, then sell it and buy another property as an investment. I'm trying to understand how Sections 121 and 1031 would work together in this scenario. From what I've researched, they could exclude $500k of the capital gains using Section 121 (married filing jointly). Then they could use a 1031 exchange to defer taxes on the remaining capital gains by purchasing another investment property they'd keep for at least 2 years. But I have several questions: 1) How much of the sale proceeds needs to be invested in the new property to fully defer taxes? The entire $1.8M? Or just $1.15M (sale price minus original basis)? Or is it $650k (the amount after excluding the $500k under Section 121)? 2) Is 2 years sufficient for converting a primary residence to a rental property for these purposes? I've heard varied opinions on this. 3) If we pay my parents fair market rent, would there be any issues if they later gift some money back to us (with proper gift tax filing)? 4) What would my parents' basis be in the new investment property? How exactly does the basis carry over? Any insights would be greatly appreciated! This is complex territory for us.

Carmen Ortiz

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I can help clarify this situation! You've got a good general understanding, but let's break it down step by step. For the Section 121 exclusion, your parents need to have lived in the home as their primary residence for at least 2 of the last 5 years before selling. Since they've lived there for 12 years, they qualify for the $500k exclusion (married filing jointly). For your specific questions: 1) To defer all remaining gain through a 1031 exchange, they need to purchase a replacement property of equal or greater value than the NET sale price (after selling expenses like realtor fees, but before applying the 121 exclusion). So if they sell for $1.8M and have $100k in selling costs, they'd need to buy a property worth at least $1.7M. The $500k Section 121 exclusion reduces their taxable gain but doesn't reduce the required replacement property value. 2) Two years as a rental is generally sufficient, but there's no bright-line test from the IRS. The key is demonstrating investment intent. Having a formal lease agreement, claiming depreciation, and reporting rental income all help establish this intent. 3) Fair market rent is essential to establish a legitimate landlord-tenant relationship. While they could gift money back separately, be cautious about this approach. If the IRS determines this was a pre-arranged plan, they might view the arrangement as not truly a rental. Timing is important here - immediate gifting back could look suspicious. 4) The new basis would be the purchase price of the new property minus the deferred gain. So if the new property costs $1.8M and the deferred gain is $650k (after applying the $500k exclusion), the new basis would be $1.15M.

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MidnightRider

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Thanks for the detailed response. I'm confused about the basis calculation though. If they paid $650k for the original property and are excluding $500k under Section 121, isn't the remaining gain $650k (=$1.8M-$650k-$500k)? And if the new property costs $1.8M, wouldn't the new basis be $1.15M (=$1.8M-$650k)? Also, when you say "no bright-line test" for the rental period, does that mean the IRS could potentially challenge the 1031 exchange even after 2 years of rental use?

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Carmen Ortiz

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You're absolutely right about the basis calculation - I made a calculation error. If they paid $650k for the original property and are excluding $500k under Section 121, the remaining gain would be $650k (assuming $1.8M sale price). If the new property costs $1.8M, the new basis would indeed be $1.15M ($1.8M minus the $650k deferred gain). When I say there's "no bright-line test," I mean the IRS hasn't specified an exact time period that automatically qualifies a property as an investment. Generally, 2 years is considered reasonably safe, but what's more important is demonstrating true investment intent. They should keep detailed records of the rental activity, have a formal lease agreement, report all rental income, take appropriate depreciation, and treat it as a business. The longer the rental period, the stronger their position would be if questioned.

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Andre Laurent

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Did taxr.ai provide any guidance about the gift situation OP mentioned? That seems like a potential red flag to me. I'm wondering if there's a cleaner way to help the kids without risking the entire exchange treatment.

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How much does this service cost? I'm always skeptical about these online tax tools, especially for complex situations like 1031 exchanges. Did they actually save you more than what you paid for the service?

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Andre Laurent

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The tool actually flagged related-party transactions as potentially problematic, especially when they happen close to the rental agreement. They recommended having any gifts be completely separate from the rental arrangement and preferably not happening immediately after rent payments. They suggested waiting at least a quarter between receiving rent and giving gifts to create clear separation between the transactions. Regarding cost, I don't want to quote specific prices since they might have changed, but I found it much more affordable than the multiple consultations I was having with tax professionals who kept giving me conflicting advice. The peace of mind alone was worth it for me, and yes, it helped me structure the transaction in a way that saved significantly more than the cost of the service.

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Mei Wong

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Wait, so what did the IRS actually say about the gifting situation? I'm in a similar boat and would love to know their official stance before I try something that might trigger an audit.

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PixelWarrior

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Mei Wong

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The IRS agent explained that there's no specific rule against receiving rent and later making gifts, but they look at the substance of the transaction over the form. They recommended keeping the rental relationship and gifting completely separate - ideally with several months between transactions and making sure the gifts aren't in the exact same amounts as the rent. Documentation is key - having a proper lease, proof of payment, and separate gift documentation unrelated to the rental agreement. Regarding how Claimyr works - there's no special IRS line. They basically use technology to wait on hold for you. When they reach a human, you get a call connecting you directly to the agent. I was skeptical too (why pay for something I could do myself?), but after spending hours on hold previously and getting disconnected twice, it was worth it to me. The technology just automates the hold process, then brings you in when a human is actually available.

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PixelWarrior

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Amara Adebayo

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I'm a real estate investor who's done several 1031 exchanges. One thing no one's mentioned yet is that your parents should really consider using a qualified intermediary for the 1031 exchange. This is not optional - it's required to properly execute the exchange. Also, be careful about the timing. They have 45 days from selling the original property to identify potential replacement properties, and 180 days to close on the purchase. These deadlines are absolutely strict. The other comments about establishing investment intent are spot on. Two years of rental use should be sufficient, but make sure everything is documented properly - formal lease agreement, market-rate rent, separate bank account for the rental income, claiming depreciation on tax returns, etc. One more tip: have your parents consult with both a tax professional AND a real estate attorney who specializes in 1031 exchanges. The combined Section 121/1031 strategy is complex enough that you want specialized expertise.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Thank you for the additional insights! We definitely plan to use a qualified intermediary. Do you have any advice on finding a good one? And would you recommend having the QI involved now, even though we're still 1-2 years away from the actual sale?

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Amara Adebayo

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I'd recommend starting with your local real estate investment groups or asking commercial real estate agents for QI recommendations. You want someone who specializes in 1031 exchanges, not just a general title company that occasionally handles them. You don't need to formally engage a QI now since you're still 1-2 years out, but it would be worth having an initial consultation. Many will do this for free, and they can help identify potential pitfalls specific to your situation. For example, they might have insights about the family rental arrangement and how to properly document it. When you do select a QI, make sure they're bonded and insured, and ask about their experience with combined 121/1031 situations specifically. Also, check if they hold exchange funds in segregated accounts (not commingled with operating funds).

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Question about the property value - has anyone considered the potential for further appreciation during the 2-year rental period? If the property is already worth $1.8M and continues to appreciate while being rented, wouldn't that affect the calculations?

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Carmen Ortiz

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That's an excellent point! Yes, if the property continues to appreciate during the rental period, the deferred gain would be larger. Let's say it appreciates another $200k over those two years to $2M. In that case, the total gain would be $1.35M ($2M minus $650k basis). They'd still get the $500k Section 121 exclusion if they qualify, leaving $850k of gain to be deferred through the 1031 exchange. They'd need to purchase a replacement property worth at least $2M (assuming that's the net sales price after selling expenses), and their basis in the new property would be $1.15M ($2M minus $850k). The other factor to consider is depreciation. During the rental period, they'll need to take depreciation on the building portion of the property (not the land), which will reduce their basis slightly and create depreciation recapture tax when they sell, which is taxed at a maximum rate of 25% regardless of the 1031 exchange.

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Great discussion everyone! I'm dealing with a similar situation and wanted to add a few considerations that might be helpful. One thing I learned from my tax attorney is that the "step transaction doctrine" mentioned earlier can be tricky with family arrangements. The IRS might look at the entire sequence - converting to rental, renting to family, then selling and exchanging - as one integrated transaction rather than separate steps. To avoid this, your parents should establish clear business motivations for each step. Also, regarding the depreciation point that Carmen mentioned - this is crucial. Once your parents start renting the property, they'll be required to take depreciation deductions (even if they don't claim them, the IRS assumes they did). This creates "depreciation recapture" that must be paid even in a 1031 exchange - it can't be deferred like capital gains. For the gift situation, consider having your parents charge you market rent but then help you in other ways that are clearly separate from the rental relationship - maybe contributing to a down payment fund for your future home purchase, but do this well before or after the rental period to avoid any appearance of connection. Finally, make sure to document everything meticulously. Keep records of comparable rents in the area, maintain the property like any other rental (repairs, maintenance, etc.), and treat it as a true business relationship even though it's family.

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