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Ella Lewis

Tax Strategy: How a 1031 Exchange Works with the $250k Primary Residence Exclusion - Multiple Questions

Hey everyone, I currently own my house outright (no mortgage) plus a multi-unit rental property that still has a mortgage. I'm planning to sell both properties sometime in the near future since I'm kind of over being a landlord and want to live closer to my job. Here's my situation with the rental: It should be worth around $880k when I sell, I initially paid $575k for it, I've taken about $125k in depreciation, and I'll still owe $340k on the mortgage. After paying selling costs of roughly $65k and the mortgage, I'd walk away with about $475k cash. I'm considering doing a 1031 exchange to buy a single-family rental for approximately $800k, putting 20% down ($160k) and getting an investor loan for the rest. I'd rent it out for 2 years. After that, I'd sell my primary home using the $250k capital gains exclusion. Then I'd move into the rental property, making it my primary residence. I'd live there for 2 more years and then potentially sell it. Let's say by then it's worth $950k with $65k in selling costs. My questions: 1. Would I qualify for the full $250k exclusion? There's $250k gain from the original 1031'd property plus $70k from the new property. Would I just owe depreciation recapture at 25% federal plus state tax? 2. Can I refinance the investor loan to a owner-occupied mortgage after moving in? 3. Does the IRS care if I keep cash by increasing my loan amount in a 1031? 4. For 1031 purposes, does the sold value count as before or after selling fees? 5. If my replacement property costs less than what I sold, how do I calculate the taxes owed? 6. What if instead of the 1031 plan, I just moved into one of the units in my multi-family (it's a 4-unit) for 2 years? Would I get to exclude 25% of the gains (about $70k in this case)? In reality, I might just stay in the final property until retirement (20+ years), but by then my gain would be well over the $250k exclusion (unless I get married and qualify for $500k). I'm trying to minimize real estate transaction costs while maximizing tax advantages. I could also potentially sell directly to another investor for the right price. Thanks for any insights!

I've handled several similar situations with my clients. Let me break this down for you: 1. The $250k exclusion works differently with 1031 properties. If you 1031 exchange your rental and then convert it to your primary residence, the exclusion only applies to appreciation that occurs AFTER you convert it. The $250k gain from the original property would still be taxable when you sell. You'd get exclusion on the $70k that occurred during your ownership as a primary residence. 2. Yes, you can absolutely refinance from an investor loan to an owner-occupied loan once you move in. Lenders typically require you to live there, which you would be doing. 3. The IRS doesn't care about your loan amount in a 1031, only that you reinvest all the proceeds from the sale. If you sell for $880k and buy for $800k, you'd pay tax on the $80k "boot" regardless of loan amount. 4. For 1031 purposes, the selling costs reduce your realized gain. So it's the net amount after fees that matters. 5. If you buy cheaper, the difference is called "boot" and is taxable. In your example, if you sell for $880k (net $815k after selling costs) but buy for $800k, you'd have $15k of taxable boot. 6. Yes, if you moved into one unit of a 4-unit building for 2 years, you could exclude 25% of the gain under the primary residence exclusion (assuming square footage is equal among units). This strategy can work, but timing is critical and the rules are complex. Consider your long-term goals carefully.

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Thanks for the detailed response! For #1, I'm confused - I thought there was a 5-year look-back period where the exclusion is prorated based on qualifying use vs. non-qualifying use. Does that not apply when a property was acquired through 1031?

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You're absolutely right to bring up the 5-year look-back period, and that's what makes this complicated. Under Section 121(d)(6), when you sell a property acquired through a 1031 exchange, the exclusion doesn't apply to the gain that was deferred from the previous property. The exclusion only applies to gains that accrue after converting to a primary residence. Additionally, the Housing Assistance Tax Act of 2008 created a "non-qualified use" test, where periods of non-qualified use after 2008 reduce your exclusion. This means your two years of rental would count as non-qualified use, further limiting your exclusion. You'd need to own and use the property as your main home for at least 2 years within the 5-year period before selling to get any exclusion at all.

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Alexis Renard

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Camila Jordan

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Did it give you info about how the mortgage payoff affects the 1031? I'm in a similar situation but with more debt, and I'm worried about getting hit with unexpected taxes since I'll be reducing my mortgage amount significantly.

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Emma Swift

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Quick question about the depreciation recapture part - when you sell the final property after living in it for 2 years, aren't you gonna get hit with a HUGE depreciation recapture bill? My accountant told me the 25% depreciation recapture applies regardless of the 121 exclusion, so you'll still owe that even if you can exclude some of the gain. Am I understanding that right?

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Jayden Hill

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Yes, you're right. Depreciation recapture is taxed at 25% (technically "unrecaptured section 1250 gain" is taxed at a max of 25%), and this happens REGARDLESS of whether you qualify for the Section 121 exclusion. The exclusion only helps with the capital gain portion, not the recapture. So in OP's scenario, they'd still be on the hook for recapture tax on all the depreciation they've taken or were required to take, even if they live in the property for 2+ years. This is one of the tax traps that surprises many real estate investors when they sell.

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Thanks for confirming. That's what I was afraid of. So in the original scenario, they'd still owe 25% on the $125k of depreciation already taken PLUS any new depreciation taken during the 2 years it's a rental after the 1031. That could be a pretty significant hit even with the primary residence exclusion.

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LordCommander

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Has anyone here actually completed a 1031 exchange into a property that you later converted to your primary? I'm considering this exact strategy and wondering about the practical aspects. Like how picky is the IRS about proving investment intent for the 2 years? Do you need to show specific rental income or just that you didn't live there?

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Lucy Lam

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I did this back in 2023. Key things the IRS looked at: 1) I had a legitimate lease agreement with tenants, 2) I reported all rental income on Schedule E, 3) I took appropriate depreciation, and 4) I waited 2 full years before moving in myself. I kept meticulous records of everything - repairs, communication with tenants, etc. Basically, treat it like a serious business while it's a rental. When I sold a few years after converting it to my primary, I didn't have any issues with the IRS questioning the arrangement.

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Jenna Sloan

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This is a really complex strategy with multiple moving parts, and I think you need to be careful about some potential pitfalls that haven't been fully addressed yet. One thing that concerns me is the timing of your primary residence sale. If you sell your current home first and then do the 1031 exchange on the rental, you'll have a large amount of cash sitting around that could complicate your exchange timeline. The 45-day identification period and 180-day completion deadline are strict. Also, regarding your question about keeping cash by increasing the loan amount in the 1031 - while the IRS doesn't directly care about loan amounts, you still need to invest ALL of your net proceeds from the sale. If you sell for $815k net and only buy a property for $800k, that $15k difference becomes taxable "boot" regardless of how you finance the purchase. For the multi-family conversion idea (question #6), that's actually a much simpler path tax-wise. Converting 25% of a 4-unit to primary residence use would let you exclude 25% of the gain, and you avoid all the 1031 complications entirely. You'd still have depreciation recapture on the rental portion, but the math might work out better overall. Have you run the numbers on just doing a straight sale of the rental and paying the capital gains tax? Sometimes the simplest approach is the most cost-effective when you factor in all the transaction costs and potential tax traps.

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Talia Klein

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Great point about the timing complexity! I hadn't considered how selling my primary residence first could mess up the 1031 timeline. That's definitely something to think through carefully. Your suggestion about running the numbers on a straight sale is really practical. I've been so focused on trying to minimize taxes that I might be overcomplicating things. When I factor in all the transaction costs, loan origination fees, and the hassle of managing another rental property for 2 years, maybe just paying the capital gains tax upfront is the better move. The multi-family conversion idea (moving into one unit) is sounding more and more appealing. It's way simpler administratively and I wouldn't have to deal with finding a replacement property within the 1031 deadlines. Plus I could start enjoying the primary residence exclusion benefits right away instead of waiting years for everything to play out. Thanks for the reality check - sometimes the "clever" tax strategy isn't worth the added complexity and risk!

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Caden Turner

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Just want to add another consideration that might help with your decision-making process - the market timing aspect. Real estate markets can be unpredictable, and your strategy assumes property values will continue appreciating over the next 4+ years (2 years rental + 2 years primary residence). If you're already "over being a landlord," that's actually a pretty strong signal that the multi-family conversion approach might be your best bet. Moving into one unit of your 4-unit property gives you immediate relief from full landlord duties while still maintaining some rental income from the other units. You'd get the 25% capital gains exclusion when you eventually sell, and you avoid all the 1031 exchange risks and timelines. Also consider that interest rates and lending requirements for investment properties have gotten much stricter recently. The refinancing from investor to owner-occupied loan (your question #2) might not be as straightforward as it was a few years ago, depending on your income and the property's debt-to-income ratio. One more thing - if you do decide to go the 1031 route, make sure you have your qualified intermediary lined up BEFORE you list your rental property. You can't change your mind and decide to do a 1031 after the sale process has already started. The exchange has to be planned from the beginning.

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This is such solid advice about market timing and the lending environment! I'm actually in a similar situation where I'm considering my options with rental property, and you're absolutely right about interest rates making investment property financing much more challenging now. The point about having the qualified intermediary lined up BEFORE listing is crucial - I almost made that mistake myself. I was ready to list my property and then started researching 1031 exchanges, not realizing you can't just decide to do an exchange after you've already started the sale process. For anyone reading this who might be in a similar boat, I'd also add that the current market conditions make the "bird in the hand" approach more appealing. Property values have been volatile, and there's no guarantee that waiting 4+ years for the full strategy to play out will result in better outcomes than just taking the tax hit now and simplifying your life. The multi-family conversion really does seem like the sweet spot here - immediate relief from landlord stress while still maintaining some income and getting meaningful tax benefits. Sometimes the best strategy is the one you can actually stick with long-term!

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Amina Toure

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This is a fascinating thread with lots of great insights! As someone who's been following real estate tax strategies closely, I wanted to add a few thoughts that might help with your decision. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the potential impact of state taxes on your strategy. Depending on what state you're in, the state capital gains tax rate could significantly affect your calculations. Some states have no capital gains tax, while others treat it as ordinary income. This could tip the scales toward or away from the 1031 exchange approach. Also, regarding your question about the $250k exclusion with multiple properties - there's actually a "once every two years" rule that applies to the Section 121 exclusion. If you sell your current primary residence using the exclusion, you won't be eligible to use it again for another 2 years. This could affect the timing of your overall strategy if you're planning to sell both properties within a short timeframe. The depreciation recapture issue that others mentioned is really significant here. With $125k already taken plus whatever additional depreciation you'd claim during the rental period, you're looking at a substantial 25% hit that can't be avoided with the primary residence exclusion. Given all the complexity and potential pitfalls, I'm leaning toward agreeing with the folks suggesting the multi-family conversion approach. It's cleaner, more straightforward, and gets you out of the landlord business faster while still providing meaningful tax benefits. Have you considered consulting with a tax professional who specializes in real estate to run the actual numbers on all these scenarios? The devil is really in the details with these strategies.

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Great point about state taxes - that's a huge factor that often gets overlooked! I'm in California so I'm definitely dealing with high state capital gains rates, which makes the 1031 exchange more attractive from a pure tax deferral standpoint. The "once every two years" rule for the Section 121 exclusion is something I completely missed. That could definitely throw a wrench in my timing if I'm trying to coordinate selling both properties. I was thinking about selling my primary residence first to have the cash ready for the replacement property down payment, but if I use the exclusion then, I'd have to wait 2 full years before I could use it again on the converted rental property. You're absolutely right that I should run actual numbers with a tax professional. I've been doing back-of-envelope calculations, but with all these moving pieces - state taxes, timing restrictions, depreciation recapture, transaction costs - I really need someone who can model out all the scenarios properly. The multi-family conversion is looking more and more like the path of least resistance. I think I've been overcomplicating things trying to optimize every last tax dollar when maybe the simpler approach would save me more in the long run through reduced stress and transaction costs. Thanks for adding those important details - this community has been incredibly helpful in thinking through all the angles!

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Mei Zhang

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I've been following this discussion with great interest as I'm dealing with a similar situation. One aspect that hasn't been fully explored is the impact of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) on these strategies, particularly the changes to like-kind exchange rules and the potential for future tax law changes. Under current law, 1031 exchanges are still available for real estate, but there's always political discussion about limiting or eliminating them. If you're planning a multi-year strategy, you're taking on legislative risk that the rules could change before you complete your plan. Also, I wanted to mention something about the qualified intermediary selection process. Not all QIs are created equal, and you want one with strong financials and proper segregation of client funds. There have been cases where QIs have gone bankrupt or misappropriated funds, leaving investors unable to complete their exchanges. Make sure any QI you choose is bonded and has a solid track record. For what it's worth, I recently decided against a similar 1031 strategy and instead took the tax hit upfront. The certainty of knowing my exact tax liability and being able to move on with my life was worth more to me than the potential savings from a complex multi-year plan with multiple moving parts. The multi-family conversion approach really does seem like your best option here. You get immediate relief from landlord duties, maintain some rental income, and achieve meaningful tax benefits without the complexity and risks of a 1031 exchange. Sometimes the best tax strategy is the one that lets you sleep well at night while still achieving your financial goals.

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Abigail bergen

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This is such valuable perspective about the legislative risk and QI selection! I hadn't really considered that 1031 exchanges could potentially be eliminated or restricted in future tax reforms. Given that my strategy would span 4+ years, that's definitely a risk I need to factor in. Your point about qualified intermediary due diligence is eye-opening too. I was just planning to go with whoever my real estate agent recommended, but you're right that I need to research their financial stability and track record. The last thing I'd want is to have my exchange funds tied up in a bankruptcy situation. I'm really starting to lean heavily toward the multi-family conversion approach after reading everyone's insights. The more I think about it, the more I realize I've been trying to over-optimize for tax savings while potentially creating a lot of unnecessary complexity and risk. Moving into one unit of my 4-unit property gives me most of the benefits I'm looking for - reduced landlord responsibilities, some continued rental income, and the 25% capital gains exclusion when I eventually sell - without all the moving parts and timing risks of a 1031 exchange. Sometimes the straightforward path really is the best one. Thanks for sharing your experience with taking the tax hit upfront - there's definitely something to be said for the peace of mind that comes with a clean, simple transaction versus years of complex tax planning!

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