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Anyone know if this differs for retirement accounts like an early withdrawal from a CD inside an IRA? I had to take money out early from my IRA CD and got hit with penalties from both the bank and the IRS 10% early withdrawal thing. Super confused about how to handle both on my taxes.
That's actually a completely different situation tax-wise. For an IRA early withdrawal, the 10% IRS penalty is reported on Form 5329 and isn't deductible - it's an additional tax. Any bank penalty specifically for breaking a CD within the IRA would typically just reduce the amount distributed from the IRA, so you'd pay tax and potential penalties only on the net amount you received. No separate deduction would be available since the IRA already has special tax treatment.
I went through this exact same situation last year with a 12-month CD that I had to break early for emergency expenses. The bank was similarly unhelpful about issuing corrected forms. What worked for me was keeping detailed records of everything - the original CD terms, the penalty calculation, and all correspondence with the bank. I took screenshots of my online banking showing the penalty transaction and printed out the CD agreement that showed how penalties were calculated. On my tax return, I reported the full penalty amount on Schedule 1, Line 18 as others mentioned, and attached a brief statement explaining the situation. I included the penalty amount, the dates involved, and noted that the bank declined to issue a corrected 1099-INT despite the penalty including interest from the prior tax year. The IRS accepted it without any questions. The key is having good documentation to back up your deduction if they ever ask. Don't let the bank's unwillingness to cooperate prevent you from claiming a legitimate deduction!
This is really helpful documentation advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and was worried about not having the "official" corrected 1099-INT. Did you include copies of all those documents with your tax return, or just keep them in case the IRS asked for them later? I have screenshots and email correspondence but wasn't sure if I should send everything upfront or just the brief explanation statement you mentioned.
Anyone know if there's a difference in refund amounts typically between filing 1040 vs 1040NR for students? I filed 1040 last year cuz that's what turbotax recommended but now wondering if I should have done 1040NR instead. My country (india) has a tax treaty with US so maybe i missed out on some benefits?
There can be HUGE differences! On 1040NR you can claim tax treaty benefits that might exempt some scholarship or income. BUT you also can't claim standard deduction the same way and some tax credits aren't available to nonresidents. For India specifically, there are education-related treaty benefits for students. You might want to look into amending last year's return if you were within your 5 exempt years.
As someone who went through this exact same confusion with my F-1 status, I can confirm what others have said - the 5-year exempt individual rule is key here! Your roommate should definitely file 1040NR for his first 5 calendar years in the US, regardless of being here over 183 days. The W-2 from his on-campus job doesn't change which form to use - nonresidents can still receive W-2s and file 1040NR. For the South Korea tax treaty, there are specific benefits for students that he can only claim on the 1040NR form. Article 20 of the US-Korea treaty typically covers student income exemptions. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure he checks if his university incorrectly withheld FICA taxes (Social Security/Medicare) from his paychecks. F-1 students are generally exempt from FICA for their first 5 years, so if they withheld these taxes, he can get a refund by filing Form 843 with his university payroll office. The tax software like TurboTax often gets this wrong for international students, so definitely stick with 1040NR for now. Good luck!
This is super helpful! I had no idea about the FICA tax exemption for F-1 students. My university has been withholding Social Security and Medicare taxes from my on-campus job for the past 2 years - I just assumed it was normal. Do you know if there's a time limit for requesting those refunds? And does the Form 843 process typically take long to get processed by the university payroll office? Also wondering about the Korea tax treaty benefits you mentioned - are those automatic when filing 1040NR or do you have to specifically claim them somewhere on the form? Thanks for sharing your experience!
I feel your pain on this! The confusion between transcript dates and notice dates is so frustrating. From what I've seen, when you get a CP-21B notice like that, they usually default to sending a paper check even if you have direct deposit on file - something about the "corrected" refunds needing extra verification. The 2-3 week timeframe they mention is usually pretty accurate from the notice date (so mid to late January for you). I know it sucks when rent is coming up, but at least the CP-21B is good news - it means they found you're owed MORE money than you originally claimed. Hang in there! šŖ
Thanks for breaking this down! That makes so much sense about why they'd send a check instead of direct deposit for corrected refunds. I was getting really confused about the timeline differences. At least knowing it's actually good news (more money!) makes the wait a bit easier to handle. Really appreciate the explanation! š
I'm dealing with something similar! Got my CP-21B notice last week and was also confused about the check vs direct deposit situation. From what I've been able to piece together from calling the IRS (took forever to get through), when they make corrections to your return like with the Recovery Rebate Credit, they often switch to paper checks for security reasons even if you have DD set up. The timeline from the notice date has been pretty accurate in my experience - I got my check exactly 15 days after the notice date. Since your notice was dated 1/6, you should hopefully see it by around 1/20-1/27. I know waiting sucks when bills are due, but the silver lining is that CP-21B means they found you're owed MORE money than you originally claimed! Stay strong! šŖ
This is super helpful info! I've been dealing with a similar situation and was wondering why they switched from DD to check. The security reason makes total sense for corrected returns. Thanks for sharing your timeline too - knowing someone actually got their check in 15 days gives me hope! The waiting is rough but you're right that at least it's extra money coming our way š¤
Quick tip: Always save PDF copies of your returns from any software you use. That way you can do a line-by-line comparison to catch exactly where the discrepancy happened. I found a $520 error last year by comparing forms this way - one software miscalculated my self-employment tax completely.
Do you know if there's a way to see these side by side easily? When I try comparing PDFs it's a pain switching back and forth between documents.
You can use Adobe Acrobat's "Compare Documents" feature if you have the paid version, or try online PDF comparison tools like DiffPDF or PDF24's compare tool. Some people also print both returns and go through them with a highlighter - old school but effective! The key lines to focus on are your AGI (line 11), total tax (line 24), and any credits or deductions that look different between the two versions.
This is exactly why I always recommend double-checking your return with a second software before filing! The $653 difference you found is significant and unfortunately more common than people realize. Since you've already identified that TurboTax missed your student loan interest deduction, you're definitely on the right track with filing an amended return. Just make sure you have all your documentation ready - the IRS will want to see your Form 1098-E (student loan interest statement) to verify the $2,100 deduction you're claiming. One thing to keep in mind: the student loan interest deduction phases out at higher income levels, so double-check that your modified adjusted gross income qualifies you for the full deduction. But if FreeTaxUSA properly calculated it and you're under the income limits, you should be good to go. Filing that 1040-X might take several months to process, but getting back $650+ is definitely worth the wait. In the future, maybe run your taxes through two different programs before filing - could save you this headache next year!
Malik Johnson
One thing to watch out for - make sure you're using the correct tax forms for each year! The 2020 forms are different from current ones because of the special Covid provisions. I made this mistake and had to refile because I downloaded the wrong year's forms.
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Isabella Ferreira
ā¢This is super important advice. I work at a tax prep office, and we see this mistake constantly with DIY late filers. Each tax year has specific forms and rules. For example, the Recovery Rebate Credit worksheet for 2020 is completely different from the one for 2021. And some tax breaks existed in one year but not others.
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Zara Mirza
Hey there! I totally understand that anxiety about getting behind on taxes - life happens and sometimes important stuff falls through the cracks, especially after major life changes like divorce. The good news is you're not in as bad a spot as you might think! Since you're making around $38k annually, you're likely eligible for several credits that could actually result in refunds rather than owing money. The Earned Income Credit alone could be worth $1,500+ depending on your filing status and any dependents. A few quick points to ease your mind: - You have until May 2024 to file 2020 and still claim any refund (including those Covid credits) - If you're due refunds, there are no late filing penalties - you just don't get your money until you file - The IRS has been pretty understanding about Covid-related delays Don't let the fear keep you from filing - in many cases, people in your income range end up getting money back even when filing late. The sooner you start, the sooner you'll know exactly where you stand and can move forward with peace of mind.
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Angel Campbell
ā¢This is such a reassuring perspective! I'm dealing with a similar situation and was really worried about what filing late would mean financially. When you mention the Earned Income Credit could be worth $1,500+ - is that per year? So potentially I could get that for each of the years I haven't filed yet (2020, 2021, 2022)? Also, you mentioned filing status affecting the credit amount - I got divorced in 2020 so I'm not sure if I should file as single or head of household for these back years. Does the filing status impact how much I might get back in credits?
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