How much would maxing out my traditional 401k save me in taxes and affect my paycheck?
I'm trying to figure out exactly how much I'd save by maxing out my traditional 401k this year. I know it reduces my taxable income, but I want to see the actual numbers to decide if it's worth it. Some details about my situation: - I live in a state with no income tax - I'm in the 24% federal tax bracket (expecting to make between $115k-125k this year) - I file as single with no dependents - The contribution limit is $22,500 for 2025 I'd like to understand how much this would save me in taxes overall and how it would impact each paycheck. Also curious about the difference if I did part traditional and part Roth contributions. I'm basically trying to decide between: 1. Maxing out pre-tax contributions 2. Just getting the company match and putting the rest in after-tax that I can rollover into my Roth IRA If anyone has a formula I can use in Excel or can walk me through the calculations, that would be super helpful! I want to make the smartest choice based on actual numbers.
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Logan Greenburg
This is actually pretty straightforward to calculate! Since you're in the 24% tax bracket, every dollar you contribute to your traditional 401k saves you $0.24 in federal income tax. If you max out the full $22,500, you'd save approximately $5,400 in federal income taxes ($22,500 × 0.24). This is a simplified calculation assuming all your contributions would have been taxed at 24%. For your paycheck impact, divide your annual contribution by the number of pay periods. If you're paid bi-weekly (26 pay periods), contributing the full $22,500 would reduce each paycheck by about $865 pre-tax, but your actual take-home reduction would only be around $658 ($865 - $207 tax savings per paycheck). For the Roth vs. Traditional question, remember that Traditional gives you tax savings now, while Roth gives you tax-free growth. If you expect to be in a higher tax bracket in retirement, Roth might be better. If you expect to be in a lower bracket, Traditional might be better.
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Charlotte Jones
•Thanks for the breakdown! I'm a bit confused though - isn't the tax bracket system progressive? So not all of the $22,500 would actually be saved at 24% right? Some of it would be dropping down from lower tax brackets? Also, how would you factor in FICA taxes? Do 401k contributions reduce those too?
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Logan Greenburg
•You raise an excellent point about the progressive tax system. You're absolutely right that not every dollar would necessarily be saved at 24%. The actual savings depend on where within the 24% bracket your income falls. 401k contributions don't reduce FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare). You'll still pay the 7.65% FICA taxes on your full salary regardless of 401k contributions. This is an important distinction - while traditional 401k contributions reduce your federal income tax, they don't affect your FICA tax obligations.
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Lucas Bey
I was in almost exactly your situation last year. I discovered this great tool at https://taxr.ai that really helped me visualize the actual tax impact of different 401k strategies. It lets you compare different contribution scenarios side by side and shows exactly how much you'd save per paycheck and annually. What I found super helpful was being able to toggle between different contribution amounts to see the marginal benefit of each additional dollar I put in. The tool showed me that maxing out my traditional 401k saved me about $5,100 in federal taxes, which was huge for my long-term savings goals. It also helped me understand the Roth vs Traditional tradeoff by showing projected values at retirement based on different tax scenarios. Totally changed my contribution strategy.
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Harper Thompson
•Does this tool work for people who have more complicated situations? I have rental income plus W2 and wondering if it can handle multiple income streams when calculating 401k benefits.
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Caleb Stark
•Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. Does it actually connect to your payroll or just give general estimates? I've used calculators before that were way off because they couldn't account for specific deductions my employer takes out.
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Lucas Bey
•The tool definitely handles multiple income streams including rental income, W2 wages, 1099 work, and even capital gains. You can input all your income sources and it will calculate how retirement contributions affect your overall tax situation. It doesn't connect directly to your payroll system, but it's much more sophisticated than basic calculators. You can input your specific deductions, healthcare costs, and other withholdings to get a very accurate picture. I compared its estimates to my actual paychecks and it was within about $15-20 per check, which impressed me given all the variables involved.
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Caleb Stark
I was really skeptical about using any online tax tools, but I tried the taxr.ai site mentioned above and it actually answered my questions perfectly. I had a similar income level (around $118k) and was deciding between maxing my 401k or just getting the match. The visualization really helped me see that in my case, I'd save about $4,800 in federal taxes by maxing out my traditional 401k. But what was most valuable was seeing how it would affect my cash flow throughout the year. I ended up doing a hybrid approach - about 75% traditional and 25% Roth - which the tool showed was optimal for my situation. Definitely gave me more confidence in my decision than just guessing or using a basic calculator.
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Jade O'Malley
If you're trying to make this decision, you might also want to consider what happens if you need to contact the IRS with questions about your retirement accounts or tax situation. I spent WEEKS trying to get through to someone at the IRS last year when I had questions about my 401k rollover. I eventually found https://claimyr.com which completely solved this problem for me. You can check out how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c but basically they hold your place in line with the IRS and call you when an agent is about to answer. This was super helpful because I needed specific guidance on how my 401k decisions would affect my tax liability, and the IRS agent was able to walk me through the exact calculations based on my situation. Saved me hours of frustration and probably a lot of money in potentially wrong tax decisions.
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Hunter Edmunds
•How long did it take to actually get a call back? I've heard the IRS wait times are still insane even with services like this.
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Ella Lewis
•This sounds like a paid service just to talk to a government agency we already fund with our taxes? That's ridiculous. Why should anyone have to pay extra just to talk to the IRS?
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Jade O'Malley
•I got a call back in about 2.5 hours, which was amazing considering I had previously spent multiple days trying on my own and kept getting disconnected. The IRS wait times are definitely still long, but this service holds your place in line so you don't have to stay on hold yourself. You make a fair point about paying for access to a government agency. I completely agree we shouldn't have to pay extra for this service in an ideal world. But when I weighed the cost against the value of my time and the importance of getting correct information for a major financial decision, it made sense for me. I was making decisions about tens of thousands of dollars, so getting accurate information directly from the IRS was worth it.
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Ella Lewis
I was completely against using any kind of paid service to reach the IRS - it felt wrong on principle. But after spending THREE SEPARATE DAYS trying to get through to ask questions about my 401k contribution limits (I have a complicated situation with multiple employers), I broke down and tried Claimyr. I hate to admit it, but it worked perfectly. Got a call back in under 2 hours and spoke to an agent who actually answered all my questions about how my 401k contributions would affect my tax situation. They explained exactly how much I'd save by maxing out my 401k at my income level. For anyone struggling with 401k tax questions like the original poster, getting direct answers from the IRS was incredibly helpful and gave me confidence in my decisions. Still wish the system worked better, but I can't argue with the results.
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Andrew Pinnock
Another approach is to use the IRS withholding calculator on their website. It's free and pretty accurate for basic situations like yours. For a quick estimate: If your salary is $120k and you max out your 401k at $22,500, your taxable income would be reduced to $97,500 (ignoring standard deduction for simplicity). This would save you approximately $5,400 in federal taxes as others have mentioned. But here's something others haven't mentioned - consider the opportunity cost. That $22,500 in a Roth would grow tax-free forever. At 7% annual return over 30 years, the tax-free growth might outweigh the current tax savings, especially if you believe tax rates will increase in the future.
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Angelica Smith
•Thanks for mentioning the opportunity cost angle - I hadn't thought about it that way. So you're saying even though I save $5,400 in taxes now with traditional, the long-term tax-free growth with Roth might actually be worth more? Is there some calculation I can do to figure out the breakeven point where Roth becomes better than traditional despite giving up the immediate tax savings?
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Andrew Pinnock
•The breakeven calculation depends on your future tax rate in retirement compared to your current tax rate. If your retirement tax rate will be equal to your current rate, mathematically traditional and Roth end up exactly the same (assuming contribution limits weren't a factor). The basic formula to compare them is to calculate the after-tax value at retirement. For traditional, that's: Contribution × (1 + r)ⁿ × (1 - future tax rate), where r is your annual return and n is years to retirement. For Roth, it's: Contribution × (1 - current tax rate) × (1 + r)ⁿ. If you believe your tax rate in retirement will be lower than 24%, traditional has an advantage. If you believe it will be higher, Roth wins. Many people do a mix of both to hedge against tax uncertainty and provide tax flexibility in retirement.
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Brianna Schmidt
one thing nobody mentioned is that if ur over the roth ira income limits, doing traditional 401k contributions can actually help you get under those limits! this was a huge benefit for me cuz at $115k you're right near the phaseout range for roth ira contributions. by putting in traditional 401k $, you lower your MAGI which could let you still contribute directly to a roth ira instead of having to do backdoor conversions. this adds another benefit to going traditional with your 401k!
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Alexis Renard
•This is a great point. For 2025, the Roth IRA phase-out starts at $146,000 for single filers. So if the OP is making $125k, maxing their traditional 401k would drop their MAGI to around $102,500, well below the phase-out range. It's a strategic two-for-one benefit: tax savings now PLUS the ability to fund a Roth IRA directly. Definitely worth considering in the overall strategy.
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GalacticGladiator
One thing that might help you make this decision is to also consider your employer's vesting schedule and matching policy. If your company has a generous match, you definitely want to capture that free money first before worrying about traditional vs Roth. Also, since you mentioned you're deciding between maxing out pre-tax vs just getting the match and doing backdoor Roth conversions - remember that you can actually do both! You could max out your traditional 401k (getting those tax savings now) AND still do a backdoor Roth IRA conversion for an additional $7,000 since your income is above the direct Roth IRA limits. This gives you the best of both worlds: immediate tax relief from the 401k contributions, plus additional tax-free growth from the Roth IRA. At your income level, this combined strategy could be really powerful for long-term wealth building.
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Emma Thompson
•This is really helpful advice! I'm new to all this retirement planning stuff and didn't realize you could do both strategies at the same time. Just to make sure I understand correctly - you're saying I could put the full $22,500 into my traditional 401k to get the tax savings, AND separately contribute $7,000 to a Roth IRA through the backdoor conversion method? That would be $29,500 total retirement savings per year which seems like a lot but also really appealing if I can swing it financially. Do you know if there are any income limits or other restrictions I should be aware of when doing both of these together?
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