How much taxes will I pay for a $100k capital gain with no other income?
So I started trading with about $5k and within a two week period I made some crazy gains that got me up to $105k. But then I lost about $60k on some bad trades, but I'm still sitting on a $40k profit overall. Since I don't have any other income this year (quit my job to focus on trading), how much would I need to pay in taxes on this capital gain? This is all short-term trading since I held everything less than a year. I'm completely new to capital gains taxes and have no clue what bracket I'd fall into with just this trading income.
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Sofia Hernandez
So your net capital gain is $40k, not $100k, since you need to calculate your total profit after all gains and losses. Since these are short-term capital gains (held less than a year), they're taxed as ordinary income. With $40k as your only income for the year, you'd be in the 12% federal tax bracket for 2024 filing (assuming you're single). You'll pay 10% on the first $11,000 and 12% on the remaining amount up to $44,725. You'll also need to pay self-employment tax if this is considered a trading business rather than investment activity, which depends on how frequently you trade. Don't forget about state taxes too, which vary depending on where you live. Also, since you don't have an employer withholding taxes, you might need to make estimated quarterly tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties.
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Dmitry Kuznetsov
•What's the difference between trading as a business vs just regular investment activity? I trade almost daily but never thought about this distinction.
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Dylan Campbell
•Thanks for the info! I didn't realize I might need to pay quarterly estimates. How do I know if I'd be considered a "trading business" vs just a regular investor? I probably make 5-10 trades per week, sometimes more if the market is volatile.
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Sofia Hernandez
•For trading vs investment activity, the IRS looks at several factors: frequency of trades, amount of time devoted to trading, whether you depend on the income, and if you conduct your trading like a business. Generally, casual investors who don't trade as their primary source of income don't qualify as "traders" for tax purposes. For your quarterly tax situation, since this is your only income, you should make estimated tax payments using Form 1040-ES. The due dates are April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. If you don't pay enough throughout the year, you might face underpayment penalties, so it's worth setting aside about 15-20% of your profits for taxes.
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Ava Thompson
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Miguel Ramos
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Keisha Johnson
Don't forget that since your trading was all short-term (less than 1 year), your gains are taxed as ordinary income, not at the preferential long-term capital gains rates. But since your total income is only $40k, you're in a fairly low tax bracket anyway. If you held any positions for more than a year, those would qualify for the lower long-term capital gains rates (0%, 15%, or 20% depending on your income level).
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Paolo Rizzo
•What's the income threshold for the 0% long-term capital gains rate? I might try to hold some positions longer if it means paying zero taxes!
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Keisha Johnson
•For 2024 taxes (filed in 2025), if your total taxable income (including the capital gains) is $44,625 or less for single filers, you'd qualify for the 0% long-term capital gains rate. It's $89,250 for married filing jointly. So in the original poster's case with $40k in gains and no other income, if those had been long-term gains (held over a year), they could have potentially paid zero federal tax on those gains! This is why tax planning with investments can be so valuable - the difference between short-term and long-term can literally save thousands in taxes.
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QuantumQuest
Make sure you keep detailed records of all your trades! I got audited last year because I had large capital gains and the IRS wanted proof of my basis. Screenshot your transactions or download statements from your brokerage. They'll issue a 1099-B but sometimes the cost basis information is missing or wrong.
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Amina Sy
•This happened to me too. My broker reported the sales proceeds but not my purchase price for some crypto transactions. The IRS assumed my basis was $0 and tried to tax me on the full amount! Always keep your own records.
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Aurora St.Pierre
Just a heads up - since you quit your job to focus on trading full-time, the IRS might classify you as a "trader in securities" rather than an investor. This could actually work in your favor for some deductions (like home office expenses if you trade from home, equipment costs, etc.) but it also means you'd need to pay self-employment tax on your net earnings. The key factors the IRS looks at are: trading frequency (sounds like you're active), substantial time devoted to trading (you quit your job for this), and whether trading is your primary income source. With 5-10 trades per week as someone mentioned, you're definitely in that gray area. If you do qualify as a trader, you can deduct business expenses on Schedule C, but you'll owe the additional 15.3% self-employment tax on top of regular income tax. Might be worth consulting a tax pro to see which classification benefits you more given your specific situation.
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Harmony Love
•This is really important info that I hadn't considered! I'm definitely trading frequently enough that the IRS might see me as a trader rather than just an investor. The self-employment tax angle is something I need to look into more - that extra 15.3% could be a big hit, but if I can deduct my trading setup, software subscriptions, and home office expenses, it might balance out. Do you know if there's a way to elect trader status, or does the IRS just decide based on your activity patterns? I want to make sure I'm classifying myself correctly from the start rather than dealing with problems later.
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