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Tasia Synder

How much tax will I owe on $20k Bitcoin gains? Can I offset with altcoin losses?

I made around $20k profit trading Bitcoin between May and September this year (kicking myself for selling because I missed out on probably $25k more in gains, but that's another story). I'm trying to figure out my tax situation with this crypto profit. Should I be setting aside 30% for taxes? It feels crazy that I might have to pay $6k+ in taxes on this $20k profit. Just doesn't seem right to me... are there legitimate ways to reduce how much I'll owe? Is there any scenario where I'd end up paying more than 30%? Another question - I bought several altcoins (Shiba Inu, Cardano, and Dogecoin) back in September 2021 for about $6k total. Currently they're only worth around $2k. If I sell these altcoins now, can I use that $4k loss to offset some of my $20k Bitcoin gains? Does that mean I'd only need to pay taxes on $16k instead of the full $20k? Do short-term gains and long-term losses work differently for tax calculations? For context, I live in the US with an annual income of roughly $95k from my regular job.

You're on the right track with your thinking. Since you held the Bitcoin for less than a year before selling, those $20k gains are considered short-term capital gains and will be taxed at your ordinary income tax rate (not a flat 30%). At your $95k income level, you're likely in the 24% federal tax bracket, plus your state taxes if applicable. So setting aside 30% is actually a reasonable estimate. The good news is that yes, you can absolutely offset your gains with losses! If you sell those underwater altcoins now, you can use the $4k loss to reduce your taxable gains from $20k to $16k. This works even though the gains are short-term and the losses would be long-term (held over 1 year). Capital losses offset capital gains regardless of holding period. Just make sure to document everything carefully - dates of purchase and sale, amounts, and the exchange used. You'll report all this on Schedule D and Form 8949 when you file.

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Tasia Synder

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Thanks for the info. So if I'm understanding correctly, even though my Bitcoin gains were short-term and my altcoin losses would be long-term, I can still combine them to only pay taxes on $16k? Also, do you know if I need to sell the altcoins before December 31st for them to count against this year's taxes?

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Yes, that's exactly right - you can offset short-term gains with long-term losses. The IRS first nets short-term against short-term and long-term against long-term, but then combines everything for your final tax calculation. Yes, you definitely need to sell the altcoins by December 31st for the losses to count on this year's tax return. Any sales in January or later would count toward next year's taxes instead. Make sure to allow enough time for the transactions to complete before year-end, especially if using exchanges that might have delays during busy periods.

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Ellie Perry

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Did you have to manually input all your trades or can it connect directly to exchanges? I've got transactions across Coinbase, Binance, and a wallet that I've been dreading trying to reconcile.

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Landon Morgan

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Teresa Boyd

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Teresa Boyd

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Bruno Simmons

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One thing nobody's mentioned - if you do offset your $20k gain with the $4k loss, remember that your state tax situation might be different from federal. Some states don't recognize crypto losses the same way the IRS does. I live in California and got surprised by this last year. Had to pay CA state tax on the full amount of my gains even though federally I was able to offset some with losses. Check your specific state tax rules or talk to a local tax pro before making any final decisions about selling those altcoins.

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Tasia Synder

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Damn, hadn't even thought about state tax differences. I'm in Texas so I think we don't have state income tax, but I'll double check. Does anyone know if there are any other gotchas I should watch out for with crypto taxes?

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Bruno Simmons

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You're lucky being in Texas then! No state income tax means you only need to worry about the federal side of things. Another gotcha to watch for is the wash sale rule situation. Currently, crypto isn't subject to the same 30-day wash sale rules as stocks, which means you could technically sell your altcoins for the tax loss, then immediately rebuy them if you still want to hold them long-term. The IRS could change this rule in the future, but for tax year 2025, you're still able to do this. Just make sure you actually execute the sale - moving coins between your own wallets doesn't count as a taxable event.

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Just a heads up that the IRS has been getting more aggressive about crypto reporting. Make sure whatever exchange you used is sending you proper 1099 forms. I had a similar situation last year with about $15k in gains and didn't report it all correctly. Got a lovely letter from the IRS six months later saying I owed an additional $3k plus penalties because my exchange had reported the transactions to them.

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Zane Gray

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This is so true. Friend of mine tried to "forget" about $8k in crypto gains and got absolutely hammered with penalties. The exchanges are definitely reporting to the IRS now - this isn't the wild west anymore.

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