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Lukas Fitzgerald

How Do Short Term Capital Gains and Losses Impact My Taxes if I Win Big Then Lose It All?

So I've been dabbling in the stock market this year and was wondering about something that's keeping me up at night. What if I hit it really big on some short term trades - like say I made around $550k in gains. Then, like an idiot, I put it all into other stocks thinking I'm some kind of genius, only to watch it all crash and burn. For context, I only make about $65k at my regular job as a project coordinator. If this hypothetical nightmare scenario happened, would I be stuck paying massive taxes to the IRS on that $550k even though I ended up losing almost everything after reinvesting? Would I be on the hook for taxes on money I don't even have anymore? I know about capital gains tax on short term investments (less than a year), but I'm not clear on how the losses work against the gains when they happen in the same tax year. Would I be filing tax returns for the next decade trying to pay off a tax bill on phantom money? This is purely hypothetical (for now), but I'm trying to understand the tax implications before I make any big moves. Thanks!

Ev Luca

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The good news is that capital losses offset capital gains in the same tax year. If you made $550k in short term capital gains but then lost a similar amount in the same tax year, those losses would offset the gains when calculating your tax liability. Here's how it works: Short term capital gains (assets held less than a year) are added together, and short term capital losses are subtracted from those gains. If your short term losses exceed your short term gains, you can apply up to $3,000 of the excess loss against your ordinary income (like your $65k salary) per year. Any remaining loss can be carried forward to future tax years. The important detail is timing. The gains and losses must be "realized" - meaning you actually sold the investments, not just watched them drop in value on paper. If the buying, selling and losing all happened within the same tax year, you'd only be taxed on the net result.

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Avery Davis

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What if the gains were in one tax year and the losses in the next? Like if I made $550k in December 2024 but lost it all in January 2025? Would I still owe taxes on the full $550k for the 2024 tax year?

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Ev Luca

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Great question about timing across tax years. If you realized $550k in gains in December 2024 but didn't sell the losing positions until January 2025, then yes, you would owe taxes on the full $550k for your 2024 tax return. For your 2025 tax return, you could then claim the capital loss, but you'd be limited to offsetting $3,000 of ordinary income per year with the remainder carried forward to future years. This is exactly why tax planning and being strategic about when you realize gains and losses is so important - especially with large amounts like in your example.

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Make sure you're aware of the wash sale rule too! If you sell stocks at a loss and buy the same or "substantially identical" securities within 30 days before or after the sale, you can't claim the loss immediately. This tripped me up big time last year when I thought I was being clever by tax-loss harvesting but kept jumping back into the same stocks when they dipped further.

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Peyton Clarke

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Does the wash sale rule apply across different types of accounts? Like if I sell something at a loss in my regular brokerage account but buy it back in my IRA within 30 days?

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Yes, the wash sale rule does apply across different types of accounts, including IRAs. This is something many people miss! If you sell a stock at a loss in your taxable brokerage account and then buy the same stock in your IRA within 30 days, it's considered a wash sale and you can't claim the loss. This gets particularly tricky with automatic investments or dividend reinvestment plans. The IRS considers all your accounts together when applying this rule, so you need to be careful about your trading activity across your entire portfolio.

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Vince Eh

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One thing nobody's mentioning is that your capital losses can only offset $3,000 of ordinary income per year after offsetting capital gains. So if you had $550k in gains in year 1, then $550k in losses in year 2, you'd still owe taxes on the full $550k gain in year 1. Then in year 2, you could only use $3,000 of that loss against your regular income, and would have to carry forward the remaining $547,000 in losses for future years. At $3,000 per year against your ordinary income, that would take you 182 years to fully utilize those losses! This is why tax planning and realizing gains/losses in the same tax year is super important.

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Is there any way around this $3,000 limit? That seems insanely restrictive if you have large investment losses.

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