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Fiona Gallagher

How long do long term capital loss carryovers last? Can they be used indefinitely?

I've been trying to figure out how long I can carry over my long term capital losses from some really bad stock investments I made a few years ago. Google searches say these losses can be carried forward indefinitely, but I'd like to know exactly which IRS Publication or tax code section actually states this. I've got about $14,000 in losses that I've been carrying forward after a horrible tech stock collapse wiped out my portfolio. I know I can use $3,000 per year against ordinary income, but I want to make sure I understand how many years I have left to claim these losses. Anyone know the specific IRS reference that confirms capital losses can be carried forward indefinitely? Just want to make sure I'm not missing something before I continue reporting these on my 2025 return.

Thais Soares

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Yes, capital losses (both long-term and short-term) can be carried forward indefinitely until they're used up completely. This is covered in Internal Revenue Code Section 1212(b). The basic rule is that you can deduct capital losses against capital gains, and if your losses exceed your gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 ($1,500 if married filing separately) against your ordinary income each year. Any unused losses after that can be carried forward to future tax years. There's no expiration date on these carryover losses - they remain available until you've used them all up, even if it takes decades.

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Nalani Liu

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Thanks for the specific reference! Do you happen to know if the order matters when using carryover losses? Like if I had both short term and long term loss carryovers, which gets applied first?

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Thais Soares

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Yes, there's a specific order for using capital losses. Short-term losses are first applied against short-term gains, and long-term losses against long-term gains. If you have remaining losses of one type after offsetting the same type of gain, those losses can be used to offset the other type of gain. After that, if you still have net losses (of either type), then you can use up to $3,000 to reduce your ordinary income. Any remaining loss continues to carry forward to future years.

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One thing to watch out for with capital loss carryovers - death terminates them! Unlike many tax attributes that can transfer to a surviving spouse or heir, unused capital losses die with the taxpayer. My father had about $25,000 in carryover losses when he passed, and we weren't able to use them on his final return beyond the $3,000 limit for that year.

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Dyllan Nantx

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Wait, seriously? So if someone has a huge carryover loss and they're elderly or ill, there's no way to transfer that tax benefit to heirs? That seems really unfair!

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That's exactly right. The tax code treats capital loss carryovers as personal to the taxpayer who incurred them. There's no mechanism to transfer unused losses to anyone else, not even a surviving spouse. The best planning strategy is to try to use up large capital losses during your lifetime by generating capital gains when possible. Sometimes it makes sense to sell appreciated assets and immediately repurchase them (establishing a higher basis) if you have large loss carryovers that might otherwise be wasted.

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One more thing on this topic - capital loss carryovers can potentially be used on back-to-back separate and joint returns. Like if you filed as single with carryover losses, then got married, you CAN bring those losses to your joint return. But what's weird is if you file jointly with losses, then get divorced, each spouse gets half the carryover. My ex and I had about $18k in carryovers when we split, and we each took $9k to our separate returns.

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Anna Xian

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Is this officially documented somewhere? Going through a divorce now and we have carryover losses from some terrible investment decisions we made together. Would be nice to know the official position on splitting these up.

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Layla Mendes

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For the divorce question about splitting capital loss carryovers - yes, this is covered in IRS Publication 504 (Divorced or Separated Individuals). When spouses who filed jointly get divorced, any unused capital loss carryovers from the joint returns are generally allocated 50/50 between the former spouses on their subsequent separate returns, unless they agree to a different allocation in their divorce decree. However, if one spouse can demonstrate they were responsible for a larger portion of the losses (like if they managed all the investments that generated the losses), they might be able to claim a larger share. But absent specific documentation or agreement, the IRS default is 50/50 split. The key thing is to make sure this gets addressed in your divorce settlement so there's no confusion later when you're both trying to claim the carryovers on separate returns.

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This is really helpful information! I had no idea that capital loss carryovers could be split in divorce situations. Makes me wonder - what happens if one spouse remarries and files jointly with their new spouse? Can those carried-over losses from the previous marriage be used on the new joint return? Or do they stay tied to the individual who originally incurred them? Also, does anyone know if there are any time limits for making the allocation agreement in the divorce decree, or can former spouses go back and amend how they want to split the losses even after the divorce is final?

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