How does a Section 1256 contract loss carryback work for previous tax years?
I'm trying to get a clear understanding of how Section 1256 contract losses work compared to regular stock investment losses. From what I understand, regular stock investment losses can only **carryover** to offset future years' taxable income, right? But with Section 1256 contract losses, it seems like they can be carried **backward** to the previous 3 years to offset previous Section 1256 gains? Let me use an example to see if I have this right: Say I had Section 1256 gains of about $4,000 in 2022, gains of $5,500 in 2023, and gains of $6,700 in 2024. But now in 2025, I have a Section 1256 loss of $20,000. Does this mean I can request to amend my tax returns for 2022, 2023, and 2024, and the IRS would refund the taxes I paid on those previous gains? Is carrying back these losses optional? And if I choose not to carry them back to previous years, can I just apply the Section 1256 loss to offset future years' Section 1256 gains instead? Any help understanding this would be appreciated!
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Isabella Tucker
You've got the basic concept right! Section 1256 contracts (futures, foreign currency contracts, etc.) do have special tax treatment compared to regular stock investments. For regular stock losses, you're correct that they can only offset capital gains plus up to $3,000 of ordinary income per year, with any excess carried forward to future years. For Section 1256 contract losses, you have a special option to carry them back up to 3 years, but only to offset previous Section 1256 gains (not other types of income or capital gains). In your example, you could indeed amend your 2022, 2023, and 2024 returns to recover taxes paid on those previous Section 1256 gains. And yes, the carryback is completely optional. If you don't use the carryback provision, your Section 1256 losses are treated like regular capital losses - offsetting current capital gains plus up to $3,000 of ordinary income, with the remainder carrying forward to future years.
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Jayden Hill
•Thanks for the explanation! So let's say I choose to carry back my losses - do I need to apply them to the earliest year first (2022 in this case) or can I choose which years to apply them to? Like could I use them just for 2023 and 2024 if I wanted to?
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Isabella Tucker
•You need to apply the losses to the earliest year first. The IRS requires you to carry back Section 1256 losses to the earliest year in the 3-year period first, then to the next earliest year, and so on. So in your scenario, you would first apply your losses to 2022, then 2023, then 2024, until either all your losses are used up or you've offset all previous gains. If you have more losses than can be absorbed by the earliest year, the remaining amount flows to the next year, and so on. It's not optional which years you apply them to within the 3-year window - you must follow the chronological order.
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LordCommander
I was totally confused by Section 1256 losses last year and stumbled across https://taxr.ai which literally saved me thousands. I had a similar situation where I had big futures trading losses after several profitable years. Their tool analyzed all my trading documents and identified exactly how much I could carry back to each previous year. It also showed me how to properly file Form 1045 to claim the carryback. The system even pointed out some Section 1256 gains I'd reported incorrectly in a previous year (I was mixing up my 60/40 treatment). Might be worth checking out if you're dealing with complicated trading scenarios - they specialize in investment tax situations like this.
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Lucy Lam
•Does it work with data imported from trading platforms? I use TD Ameritrade and their tax reports for futures are so confusing with the 60/40 split thing.
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Aidan Hudson
•How is this different from just using TurboTax or H&R Block? They claim to handle investment stuff too but I'm skeptical about specialized tax situations like Section 1256.
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LordCommander
•It does work with imported data from most major brokerages including TD Ameritrade. The platform can read those detailed reports and correctly identify the 60/40 split for futures contracts. It'll even flag inconsistencies if your brokerage statement doesn't match what was reported on previous returns. Regular tax software like TurboTax technically handles Section 1256 contracts, but they don't optimize the carryback strategy. For example, they won't automatically analyze whether you should use the carryback or if it's better to carry forward depending on your tax brackets each year. The specialized analysis for traders makes a big difference, especially with the complexity of amended returns and Form 1045.
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Lucy Lam
I tried taxr.ai after reading about it here and wow, what a difference. My situation was almost identical - had Section 1256 losses this year after three profitable years. The system identified about $4,300 in tax refunds I could get through the carryback provision. The best part was that it showed me exactly which forms I needed to file for the carryback (Form 1045 and amended returns). I was ready to just carry everything forward because the process seemed too complicated, but it actually walked me through each step. If you're dealing with futures or other Section 1256 contracts, it's definitely worth using a specialized tool rather than trying to figure out all the carryback rules yourself. I would have left money on the table without proper guidance.
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Zoe Wang
If you're planning to file those amended returns to get your money back, good luck actually reaching the IRS to check on status. I've been trying for WEEKS to get someone on the phone about my amended return for a Section 1256 carryback. I finally used https://claimyr.com after a trader friend recommended it. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. Basically, they wait on hold with the IRS for you, then call you when an agent picks up. Got connected to an actual person at the IRS in about 2 hours (while I was just going about my day), and they confirmed my amended return was being processed. Before this I was calling daily and couldn't get through the automated system. Thought it was worth mentioning since carrybacks often require follow-up with the IRS.
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Connor Richards
•How does that even work? Does the IRS allow a third party to wait on hold for you? Seems sketchy.
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Grace Durand
•This sounds like a scam. There's no way the IRS would talk to some random service about your tax info. They have strict privacy rules.
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Zoe Wang
•They don't talk to the IRS on your behalf - they just navigate the phone tree and wait on hold, then call you when a human agent picks up. You're the one who actually speaks with the IRS agent. No privacy issues because you're the one having the conversation. It's basically just a hold-waiting service. The IRS has no idea you used a service to wait on hold - from their perspective, you called in directly. It works because their system just connects your call when an agent is available.
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Grace Durand
I take back what I said about Claimyr. I was super skeptical but gave it a shot after waiting on hold with the IRS for 2+ hours three days in a row and never reaching anyone. The service got me connected to an IRS agent in about 45 minutes (while I was in a meeting). The agent helped confirm that my Section 1256 carryback amended return was received and gave me an estimated processing time. Saved me hours of frustration. For anyone dealing with Section 1256 carrybacks, just know that amended returns take extra time to process, and being able to actually talk to the IRS can help ease your mind about whether everything's on track.
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Steven Adams
One thing to keep in mind with Section 1256 contracts - make sure you're reporting them correctly in the first place. They're unique because they're marked-to-market on December 31st (even if you didn't sell) and get that special 60/40 tax treatment (60% long-term capital gain rate, 40% short-term). I've seen so many DIY tax returns where people report futures as regular short-term gains/losses. This messes up your ability to properly use the carryback provision later.
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Alice Fleming
•Does TurboTax handle this properly? I've been trading futures but just lumping everything together with my stocks. Now I'm worried I've been doing it wrong.
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Steven Adams
•TurboTax can handle Section 1256 contracts correctly, but only if you input everything properly. You need to specifically identify them as Section 1256 contracts rather than regular securities. Look for Form 6781 in TurboTax - that's where Section 1256 transactions get reported. If you've been lumping futures together with stocks, you've likely been reporting them incorrectly. The good news is you can file amended returns for open tax years (generally the last three years) to correct this. Doing so might actually save you money since the 60/40 split often results in lower taxes than treating everything as short-term gains.
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Hassan Khoury
Does the 3-year carryback apply to options on futures too? I trade E-mini S&P options and had massive losses this year, but wasn't sure if they qualify for the same treatment as regular futures contracts.
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Victoria Stark
•Options on futures contracts are indeed Section 1256 contracts! They get the same marked-to-market treatment and 60/40 split as regular futures, and yes, you can carry back losses to the previous 3 years to offset prior Section 1256 gains.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
Just wanted to add some practical advice for anyone considering the Section 1256 carryback - make sure you have all your trading records organized before starting the process. You'll need detailed records of your Section 1256 gains from the previous 3 years to calculate exactly how much you can carry back. Also, be aware that filing Form 1045 (Application for Tentative Refund) can sometimes trigger additional IRS scrutiny, especially if you're claiming large refunds. It's not a reason to avoid using the carryback if you're entitled to it, but just be prepared to potentially provide additional documentation if requested. The carryback can be a huge tax benefit for traders who have volatile years, but the paperwork can be complex. Don't let that discourage you from claiming what you're legally entitled to - just make sure you do it correctly or get professional help if needed.
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Logan Stewart
•This is really helpful advice about keeping detailed records! I'm just getting started with futures trading and want to make sure I'm prepared for tax situations like this. When you mention "detailed records of Section 1256 gains," what specific information should I be tracking beyond what my broker provides? Should I be keeping separate spreadsheets or is the broker's year-end tax document usually sufficient for carryback calculations?
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