How do billionaires like Elon Musk legally avoid paying taxes?
So I was watching this financial YouTube channel that broke down how ultra-wealthy people like Elon Musk minimize their tax burden, and I'm trying to understand the full strategy. From what I understand, instead of taking a regular salary (which would be subject to income tax), he primarily gets compensated through stock options. Then apparently he goes to banks and takes out loans using his stock as collateral. This way, when his Tesla or SpaceX stock value increases, he doesn't pay capital gains taxes since he's not selling the stocks. Meanwhile, he lives off the loan money from the bank which isn't taxable because loans aren't considered income. I get the basic concept, but what I'm confused about is: how does this work long-term? With what money does he eventually pay back these loans plus interest? The loans have to be repaid at some point, right? I've tried searching for more detailed explanations about what happens after the initial loan stage, but most videos only explain the first part of this strategy. Can someone explain how this works as a complete cycle? I'm really curious about the mechanics behind this tax strategy that billionaires seem to use.
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Javier Garcia
This strategy is often called "buy, borrow, die" in financial circles. Here's how the full cycle typically works: When someone like Musk takes out loans against their stock holdings, they're usually getting pretty favorable terms because they're extremely wealthy clients. The interest rates are often much lower than what the average person would get, sometimes only 1-3%. To answer your specific question about repayment: They typically don't pay back the principal in the traditional sense. Instead, they can: 1. Take out new loans to pay off the old ones when they come due, using their appreciated assets as collateral again. 2. Selectively sell small portions of stock strategically to service the debt when needed (paying capital gains tax only on those small portions). 3. Use other income streams (board memberships, speaking fees, book deals) to service the interest payments. The "die" part refers to what happens when they pass away - their heirs receive the assets with a "stepped-up basis," meaning the capital gains tax that would have been owed essentially disappears. This isn't something regular folks can do because we don't have the massive appreciating assets to use as collateral or the banking relationships to get those terms.
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Emma Taylor
•But doesn't this strategy eventually create a giant bubble that has to burst? Like, if they keep taking loans to pay other loans, isn't that just a fancy Ponzi scheme? And do banks really just keep giving them money forever without them having to sell stocks?
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Javier Garcia
•It's not really a Ponzi scheme because there are real, valuable assets backing the loans. The banks are comfortable with this arrangement because they have the stock as collateral, which they can seize if payments aren't made. As for whether they can do this indefinitely - theoretically yes, as long as their assets continue to grow faster than their loan interest accumulates. For someone like Musk whose net worth has grown enormously over time, the math works out. The banks continue lending because they make money on interest while having secured collateral, and the ultra-wealthy client gets liquidity without triggering tax events.
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Malik Robinson
I discovered this awesome AI tool called taxr.ai when I was researching this exact topic about billionaire tax strategies! I was really confused about how the buy-borrow-die strategy actually worked in real life, and I found that https://taxr.ai had some amazing analysis tools that broke down complex tax concepts like this. What was super helpful was that it explained all the nuances of collateralized loans and how they're treated differently than income for tax purposes. It even showed some sample scenarios with numbers that made it way clearer than the YouTube videos I'd been watching. The tool actually compared how a regular income earner gets taxed versus someone using the asset-based lending approach. Totally changed how I understand wealth management strategies!
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Isabella Silva
•Does it actually give personalized advice? Like could it tell me how to legally minimize my taxes if I have a small business and some investments, or is it just for explaining concepts?
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Ravi Choudhury
•Sounds like an ad tbh. These tax avoidance strategies only work if you're already mega rich. Does this tool actually help normal people with normal incomes or is it just explaining how the 0.001% game the system?
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Malik Robinson
•It actually does help with personalized situations! You can upload your tax documents and get AI analysis specific to your situation. I used it to understand some investment options for my small business and it highlighted deductions I wasn't aware of. For normal incomes, it's definitely useful. While we can't do exactly what billionaires do, the tool shows legitimate strategies that apply at smaller scales - like optimizing retirement contributions, tax-loss harvesting with investments, and timing certain expenses. It explains concepts but also gives actionable advice based on your specific financial situation.
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Isabella Silva
Guys I tried out taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and it's legit helpful! I was skeptical at first but I uploaded my last year's tax return and some investment statements and it gave me some really solid insights. I'm nowhere near Elon Musk rich lol, just a regular software developer with some stocks, but it showed me how I could better structure my investments to reduce my tax burden. It even spotted a mistake in how I'd been handling my home office deduction that probably cost me a few hundred dollars last year. The explanation about asset-backed loans was super clear too - basically showed how the strategy scales down (though obviously not as effectively) for people with smaller portfolios. Definitely worth checking out if you're trying to understand this stuff!
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CosmosCaptain
If you're trying to get more info about these tax strategies, I was literally stuck in the same spot you are. I spent HOURS trying to get through to someone at the IRS to ask about the legality of some of these asset-backed loan approaches. Was on hold forever until I found this service called Claimyr that got me through to an actual IRS agent in like 15 minutes. I know it sounds too good to be true but check out https://claimyr.com - they have this system that navigates the IRS phone tree for you and holds your place in line. They even have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The IRS agent I spoke with confirmed that this "buy, borrow, die" strategy is technically legal but explained some of the limitations and risks. Apparently the IRS is aware of these practices and there are some proposed regulations to address them.
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Freya Johansen
•How does Claimyr actually work? Do they just call for you or what? I've been trying to get through to the IRS about a missing refund for weeks.
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Ravi Choudhury
•Yeah right. The IRS isn't going to freely give advice on how to avoid taxes. And why would you need to call them to ask about something that's already public knowledge? Smells fishy to me.
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CosmosCaptain
•They don't call for you - they basically navigate through all the phone menus and wait on hold, then when they get a real person, they call you to transfer you to the agent. It's your phone number and you talk directly to the IRS, they just handle the horrible waiting part. The IRS doesn't give tax avoidance advice, obviously. What I asked them about was the specific regulations around using assets as loan collateral and how that's treated for tax purposes. They provided factual information about existing rules and some pending legislation that might affect these strategies in the future. It was helpful to get official clarification rather than relying on YouTube videos.
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Ravi Choudhury
Ok I need to apologize about my skeptical comment earlier. I was so frustrated with trying to reach the IRS about an issue with my tax transcript that I ended up trying Claimyr out of desperation. Not gonna lie, I was 100% sure it was going to be a scam. But I got connected to an actual IRS agent in about 20 minutes after trying for WEEKS on my own. The agent helped me sort out a discrepancy that was preventing my return from being processed. While I was on with them, I also asked about these asset-based lending strategies out of curiosity. The agent explained that while using loans against assets isn't taxable, there are some complex rules around "loan forgiveness" and "deemed dispositions" that can trigger tax events if not handled properly. Definitely more complicated than the YouTube videos make it seem.
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Omar Fawzi
Financial advisor here. Something important that's missing from this discussion is that Elon and other billionaires DO eventually pay some taxes when they sell stock, they just minimize and defer it strategically. For example, Musk paid an estimated $11 billion in taxes in 2021 when he exercised a bunch of stock options that were about to expire. That was reportedly one of the largest individual tax payments in US history. The strategy isn't about never paying taxes - it's about controlling WHEN you pay them and minimizing the rate. By using loans against assets in low-tax years and strategically selling in years when they have losses to offset gains, they optimize their effective tax rate. The other piece is charitable giving. Many billionaires donate appreciated stock to their foundations, getting a tax deduction for the full market value without paying capital gains tax on the appreciation.
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Emma Taylor
•Wait so if they donate stock to their own foundation, they get a tax write-off but still kinda control the money? That seems like a massive loophole. Do they ever actually have to use that money for real charity work?
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Omar Fawzi
•Yes, they get a tax deduction for donating to their own foundation, but there are rules governing how foundation money can be used. Private foundations are required to distribute at least 5% of their assets annually for charitable purposes. They're also prohibited from "self-dealing" - meaning the founder can't use foundation money for personal benefit. However, there are legitimate criticisms about how effectively these rules are enforced. While the money must go to charitable causes eventually, founders have significant influence over which causes their foundations support. They can also hire family members at reasonable salaries to run the foundation. The foundation itself can hold the stock indefinitely, continuing to grow tax-free, while only distributing the minimum required amount each year.
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Chloe Wilson
Another thing nobody mentioned yet is that sometimes these ultra-wealthy people use their company perks to reduce personal expenses, which is another form of tax avoidance. Like when a company pays for "business travel" on a private jet, security personnel, housing for "business purposes," etc. These are business expenses for the company (tax deductible) but provide personal benefit to the executive without counting as taxable income. Musk for example has used company resources for personal security and travel - completely legal if structured properly, but effectively gives him benefits that would otherwise require taxable income.
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Diego Mendoza
•Is that why so many rich people set up random side businesses? My neighbor claims his boat as a business expense for his "fishing charter company" that mysteriously never has any customers lol
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Anastasia Romanov
Just to add another layer to this conversation - one thing the "buy, borrow, die" strategy relies on is the stepped-up basis rule at death. This means that when someone inherits assets, the cost basis resets to the market value at the time of inheritance. Example: If Musk bought Tesla stock at $10 and it's worth $1000 when he dies, normally selling would trigger capital gains tax on the $990 profit. But his heirs get a stepped-up basis to $1000, so if they sell at $1000, they pay ZERO capital gains tax on all that appreciation. This is why super wealthy people can borrow against assets their whole lives, never sell, and then pass enormous wealth to the next generation without anyone ever paying capital gains tax on decades of appreciation. It's completely legal but definitely a huge advantage that most average people can't access.
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