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How are these tax specialists getting people $10-30k tax refunds when I always owe?

So I'm super confused about how taxes work apparently. Every time I file my taxes, whether it's with a legit tax attorney or even just using TurboTax, I end up OWING money to the IRS. But then I see all these "tax pros" on social media bragging about how they're getting their clients massive refunds like $10,000 to $30,000 back?!? What the heck am I missing here? I'm not trying to do anything sketchy, but it makes me wonder if I'm leaving money on the table. Are these people just making stuff up to get clients? Are they using some loopholes I don't know about? Or am I just in a different tax situation than their clients? It's honestly making me question everything I thought I knew about filing taxes. Has anyone else worked with one of these tax pros that promise huge returns? Is it legit or just marketing BS?

Mei Liu

There's actually a pretty simple explanation for most of those claims. What these "tax pros" on social media don't tell you is that those huge refunds are often based on fairly specific situations that don't apply to everyone. Many of those large refunds come from people who qualify for significant tax credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), Child Tax Credit, or education credits. For example, a lower-income family with 3-4 kids could potentially get a refund of over $10,000 just from the EITC and Child Tax Credits alone, especially if they didn't properly adjust their withholding throughout the year. Self-employed individuals with significant business expenses can also see large refunds if they haven't been making quarterly estimated tax payments but have deductible business expenses that offset their income.

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But aren't those credits available to everyone? Couldn't any tax preparer help me claim those? My guy never mentioned anything about these big credits, and I have two kids.

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Mei Liu

The credits are available to everyone who qualifies, but qualification depends on your specific situation. For the EITC, there are income limits - if you make too much money, you won't qualify. For 2025, a family with two children phases out around $59,000 for married filing jointly. If your income is higher than that, you wouldn't get the EITC. As for the Child Tax Credit, while it's available to more families, the full benefit starts phasing out at higher income levels. Some preparers might not specifically mention these credits because they automatically calculate them if you qualify. If you're consistently owing taxes with two kids, it might be worth reviewing your W-4 withholding to ensure you're having enough withheld throughout the year.

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I tried one of those "tax experts" from Instagram last year after seeing similar claims about huge refunds. I was skeptical but decided to check out https://taxr.ai when someone recommended it to me. Instead of making wild promises, they actually reviewed my previous returns and found legitimate deductions I'd missed. They analyzed my rental property depreciation that my previous preparer had calculated incorrectly and found some business expenses for my side gig that I could legitimately claim. Nothing shady at all - just thorough analysis of my actual documents and situation. They didn't get me $30k back, but they did find about $3,500 I was leaving on the table each year.

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How does it actually work? Do they just review your previous tax returns or do they do the whole filing for you? I'm curious because I've been using the same accountant for years and now I'm wondering if I'm missing stuff.

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$3,500 sounds way more realistic than these crazy $30k claims. But did you have to provide all your personal info to this website? Seems risky to share tax docs with some random site you found online.

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Wait, how does this actually work? The IRS phone lines are a nightmare. I literally tried calling for 3 weeks straight last April and never got through. How can this service possibly get you through when the IRS phone system is so broken?

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Sounds like BS marketing to me. Nobody can magically get through to the IRS. They're probably just using bots to flood the phone lines and making the problem worse for everyone else. I'll believe it when I see it.

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It uses a system that continuously calls and navigates the IRS phone tree until it secures a spot in line, then it calls you when an agent is about to be available. It's not jumping the queue or anything shady - it's just automating the frustrating part of calling repeatedly and sitting on hold. I was skeptical too at first, honestly. But it's not bots flooding phone lines - it's actually the opposite. It makes one call at a time just like you would, but has the patience to keep trying when lines are busy and then wait on hold so you don't have to. The IRS knows about these services and hasn't shut them down because they're not doing anything against their rules.

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I need to eat my words from my previous comment. After being completely sure Claimyr was a scam, I actually tried it out of desperation when dealing with an incorrect tax notice. I got connected to an IRS representative in about 20 minutes when I had previously spent HOURS trying on my own. The agent was able to confirm that the notice was sent in error and removed the penalty. I've literally never been able to reach a human at the IRS before this, so I'm genuinely shocked it worked. Sometimes being proven wrong is a good thing!

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The truth about these "tax pros" getting huge refunds is often more sinister than people realize. I worked at a tax prep office briefly and quit because of ethical concerns. What many of these Instagram/TikTok "pros" do is: 1. Claim fake business expenses by inventing a side business 2. Claim false dependents 3. Manipulate income numbers to maximize EITC 4. Claim education credits for "schools" that don't exist Sure, clients get big refunds for a year or two, but then the audits start. By then, the "tax pro" has moved on and the client is left dealing with penalties, interest, and sometimes criminal charges. That $20k refund becomes a $40k nightmare real quick.

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How widespread is this? Are most of these social media tax preparers doing shady stuff or just a few bad apples? I see these claims EVERYWHERE during tax season.

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It's definitely not everyone, but it's pretty common with the ones advertising unusually large refunds. Legitimate tax professionals typically don't guarantee specific refund amounts because they know everyone's situation is different. The biggest red flag is when they claim they can get "everyone" large refunds regardless of income or situation. Some are just exaggerating their success stories while providing legitimate services, but the ones promising $10k+ to everyone are almost certainly cutting corners. What makes it worse is that many clients don't even realize what's happening - they just sign the returns without understanding what's being claimed in their name.

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This might be a dumb question, but is there any tax software that would help catch if I'm missing big deductions or credits? I usually use FreeTaxUSA but I'm wondering if maybe I should switch to something else?

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I switched from FreeTaxUSA to TaxSlayer and found it asks more detailed questions about potential deductions and credits. It found a student loan interest deduction I had forgotten about. Most software should catch the obvious stuff if you answer all the questions honestly. The bigger issue is often people not knowing what expenses qualify or forgetting about certain things they paid for during the year.

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The key thing to understand is that a refund isn't "found money" - it's just getting back your own money that you overpaid throughout the year. Those massive refunds usually mean someone had way too much withheld from their paychecks or qualify for refundable credits. If you're consistently owing money, it actually means your withholding is pretty accurate to what you actually owe. You could artificially create a big refund by having more taxes withheld from each paycheck, but then you're just giving the government an interest-free loan all year. The real question isn't "how do I get a bigger refund" but "am I paying the right amount of tax?" If you're not missing legitimate deductions and credits, owing a small amount or getting a small refund is actually the ideal situation - it means you kept your money in your pocket all year instead of lending it to the IRS.

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This is such an important point that I wish more people understood! I used to be obsessed with getting a big refund until I realized I was basically giving the government a free loan. Now I adjust my W-4 so I break even or owe a small amount, and I put that extra money from each paycheck into a high-yield savings account instead. Made way more sense financially, even if it doesn't feel as exciting as getting one big check in the spring.

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