Help with IRS 2802C letter about incorrect W-4 form submitted to employer
Just got a letter from the IRS (2802C) saying my husband submitted an incorrect W-4 to his employer. The weird thing is, the tax period and form fields on the letter are completely blank. He's been with the same company for over 15 years and we've always filed as "married filing jointly" - absolutely nothing has changed on our end. We typically end up owing taxes each year, and we've always paid in full until this year when we set up a payment plan for the first time. Could the payment plan be why they sent this letter? Are they trying to force us to have more money withheld from his paychecks? Honestly, why do they care as long as they get paid in the end? The only other possibility I can think of is that his company just hired a new HR person a few months ago after the previous one left. This new person has already messed up a bunch of payroll stuff (changed his payday from Friday to Tuesday for no reason, etc). Maybe she submitted something incorrectly that triggered this letter? Has anyone dealt with a 2802C letter before? What exactly does it mean and what should we do about it? The language in the letter is super vague and confusing.
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Oliver Becker
This 2802C letter is essentially the IRS flagging that they believe your husband's W-4 withholding information may be incorrect. The IRS has increased enforcement around proper withholding in recent years. The fact that you consistently owe at tax time is likely what triggered this. When you moved to a payment plan this year, it probably flagged your account for review. The IRS prefers that taxpayers have enough withheld throughout the year rather than paying large amounts at filing time or going on payment plans. The blank fields are actually normal for these notices - they're often generated by automated systems that flag patterns rather than specific forms or periods. I'd recommend your husband request a new W-4 form from his employer (or download from IRS.gov) and complete it accurately. The W-4 was redesigned in 2020, so if he hasn't updated since then, the old form might be causing issues. Be sure to account for both your incomes, any additional withholding needed, and any tax credits you typically claim.
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Amina Bah
•Thank you for the explanation! That makes sense about the payment plan triggering the review. We've been comfortable paying the lump sum at tax time for years, but this year had some unexpected expenses that made the payment plan necessary. Is there any penalty or deadline for submitting a new W-4? Also, should I be concerned that they might escalate this somehow if we don't increase the withholding enough? We're still planning to stick with the payment plan for this year's taxes.
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Oliver Becker
•There's typically no penalty for updating your W-4, and while there's no strict deadline, I would recommend doing it within 30 days of receiving the notice to show good faith compliance. As for escalation, the IRS can technically issue a "lock-in letter" if they believe withholding remains significantly inadequate. This would force your employer to withhold at a higher rate, giving you less flexibility. However, this usually only happens after multiple notices and continued significant underwithholding. If you complete a new, accurate W-4 that reasonably reflects your tax situation, you should be fine even if you still end up owing a manageable amount at tax time.
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CosmicCowboy
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Emma Thompson
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StarSurfer
My company's HR department actually caused my 2802C letter! Found out they were using outdated W-4 forms from 2019 and hadn't updated their payroll system for the 2020 W-4 redesign. When I tried to submit a new W-4 last year, they entered it incorrectly because their system wasn't compatible with the new format. Make sure your husband's HR person is using the current form and that their payroll system is updated to handle it correctly. The fact that you mentioned the new HR person has made other payroll errors makes me suspect this could be the issue. Also, yes, the payment plan likely flagged your account for review. The IRS computer systems are programmed to look for patterns of underwithholding followed by payment plans.
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Amina Bah
•That's really helpful - I hadn't considered their payroll system might be outdated! I'll definitely have him ask if they're using the current W-4 form. Given all the other payroll issues with the new HR person, I wouldn't be surprised if this is exactly what happened. Do you know if there's a way to check if his withholding is being calculated correctly? Since it's mid-year, I'm worried that even with a new W-4, we might still end up owing next April.
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StarSurfer
•You can definitely check if the withholding is being calculated correctly by comparing his next few paystubs after submitting the new W-4. Look at the federal income tax withholding amount and see if it changes appropriately. The IRS also has a Tax Withholding Estimator tool on their website that can help you project if you're on track. Input your income, current withholding to date, and expected withholding for the rest of the year. It's not perfect but gives you a good idea if you need to adjust further. Since it's mid-year, you might need slightly higher withholding for the remaining months to make up for under-withholding in the earlier part of the year.
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Ravi Malhotra
Has anyone actually called the number on the 2802C letter? I got one last month, called the number, and a very helpful IRS agent explained exactly what triggered it and how to fix my W-4. Took maybe 20 minutes total. The letter is basically a warning that if you don't fix your withholding, they might send a "lock-in letter" later, which forces your employer to withhold at a specific (usually high) rate. But the 2802C itself is just an advisory notice with no penalties attached.
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Freya Christensen
•I tried calling the number on my letter every day for two weeks and never got through. Always said "high call volume" and disconnected me. Lucky you got a real person!
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Omar Hassan
I had a very similar situation last year - got the 2802C letter right after setting up my first payment plan with the IRS. The timing wasn't coincidental at all. The IRS has automated systems that flag accounts when there's a pattern of underwithholding followed by payment arrangements. They'd rather have you withhold correctly throughout the year than collect large payments later. The blank fields on your letter are totally normal - these are system-generated notices based on patterns, not specific form reviews. Your suspicion about the new HR person could definitely be part of it too. I'd recommend having your husband download a fresh 2024 W-4 directly from irs.gov and fill it out completely from scratch. Don't rely on the HR person to have the current form or know how to process it correctly. One thing that helped me was using the IRS withholding calculator online to figure out exactly how much additional withholding we needed for the rest of the year. Since you're mid-year and have been underwithholding, you'll probably need to withhold a bit extra in the remaining paychecks to avoid owing again next April. The good news is this is just a warning - no penalties or immediate action required. Just get that W-4 updated within the next month or so and you should be fine.
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Clay blendedgen
•This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! The timing of getting the letter right after setting up the payment plan seemed too coincidental, so it's good to know that's actually what triggered it. I'm definitely going to have my husband download a fresh W-4 from irs.gov rather than relying on their HR department. Given all the other payroll mistakes this new person has made, I don't trust them to have the right form or process it correctly. The IRS withholding calculator sounds like a great tool - I hadn't thought about needing to withhold extra for the remaining months to make up for the earlier underwithholding. Do you remember roughly how much extra you had to withhold to get back on track mid-year?
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