Employer messed up my W4 form, now I owe $9,500 in taxes - what can I do?
I switched jobs in January 2024 and I'm in a really frustrating situation. When I filled out my W4, I did everything correctly - I'm married with 2 children and indicated this clearly on the form. I signed it and turned it in, assuming everything was fine. Fast forward to tax season, and I just discovered I owe the IRS nearly $9,500! I was completely shocked, so I went through all my paystubs and realized my employer hasn't been withholding ANY federal taxes this entire time. Here's where it gets weird - I contacted HR and they have TWO W4 forms on file for me, both with the same date. One is completely blank except for my signature, and the other one is filled out correctly with all my information (married, 2 dependents). Somehow they must have processed the blank one? I know I should have caught this on my paystubs, but honestly, I took a pay cut coming to this job so I didn't notice any unusual increase in my take-home pay. I just assumed everything was being handled correctly. Am I completely on the hook for this $9,500 tax bill? Is there anything I can do since I actually did fill out my W4 correctly and have proof it was submitted? Can the IRS hold my employer responsible for any of this mess?
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StarSailor
This is unfortunately a pretty common issue. While you did everything right by completing the W4 correctly, the IRS will still consider you responsible for the tax liability. The W4 is just a way to tell your employer how much to withhold - it doesn't change your actual tax obligation. However, you do have some options to make this situation more manageable. First, contact the IRS immediately to set up a payment plan. They offer reasonable monthly installment options, and as long as you're communicating with them, they're generally willing to work with you. The interest and penalties are much lower when you're on an approved payment plan. You should also speak with your employer's HR or payroll department again. While they aren't legally obligated to cover your tax bill, some companies may be willing to help, especially if they acknowledge the error was on their end. At minimum, they need to fix your current withholding immediately.
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Dmitry Ivanov
•Would the employer be liable for any penalties or interest that the IRS charges? Since they made the error by processing the wrong form, could they be required to at least cover those additional costs beyond the actual tax amount?
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StarSailor
•The employer generally isn't liable for penalties or interest in these situations. The tax code places the responsibility on the taxpayer to verify proper withholding, regardless of who made the error. The IRS considers it the employee's responsibility to check their pay stubs and ensure the right amount is being withheld. That said, you could certainly make the case to your employer that they should cover the penalties and interest as a goodwill gesture since they processed the wrong form. Some employers might agree to this to maintain good employee relations, but they aren't legally required to do so.
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Ava Garcia
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Miguel Silva
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Zainab Ismail
•Does it help with setting up payment plans too? I'm in a somewhat similar situation (though it was my fault, not my employer's) and I need to figure out how to spread my payments over time.
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Ava Garcia
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Zainab Ismail
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•How does this service even work? The IRS phone system is notoriously terrible - do they have some special access or something?
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Yara Nassar
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Yara Nassar
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Keisha Williams
One option I haven't seen mentioned yet - you might be eligible for first-time penalty abatement. If you've had a clean tax history for the past 3 years (filed and paid on time), the IRS will often waive penalties for a first-time issue like this. The interest can't be waived, but removing penalties could save you a decent chunk of money. You'll still owe the actual tax amount, but getting the penalties removed would definitely help. You can request this when you call the IRS to set up your payment plan. Make sure to specifically ask about "first-time penalty abatement" - they don't always offer it unless you ask.
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Sofia Morales
•Thanks for mentioning this! I have always filed on time and never had any issues with the IRS before. Do you know if there's specific language I should use when requesting this? And would I need to fill out a specific form?
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Keisha Williams
•Just ask specifically for "first-time penalty abatement" or "FTA" when you call. No special form is needed for the initial request - you can do it verbally with the IRS representative on the phone. Simply explain that you've always been compliant with tax obligations, this was an honest mistake due to your employer's error with the W4 forms, and you'd like to request first-time abatement of penalties. If they deny it verbally (which sometimes happens with less experienced reps), you can follow up with a written request. In that case, you'd want to write a letter referencing Internal Revenue Manual 20.1.1.3.3.2.1, which contains the FTA guidelines. But start with the phone request - many representatives will approve it on the spot if you qualify.
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Paolo Ricci
Quick question - has anyone used TurboTax to set up a payment plan with the IRS? I'm in a similar situation (owe about $8k) and wondering if I should just do it through the tax software or call the IRS directly?
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Amina Toure
•I used TurboTax for my payment plan last year and it was pretty simple. Just know that they charge an extra fee (I think it was like $40) to set it up through them. You can do it directly on the IRS website for free if you want to save that money.
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Alice Fleming
I'm really sorry you're dealing with this frustrating situation. Having two different W4 forms on file is definitely suspicious and suggests your employer made a significant error in their payroll processing. While you'll likely still be responsible for the $9,500 tax liability (since it represents your actual tax obligation), there are several steps you should take immediately: 1. Document everything - keep copies of both W4 forms, all your paystubs, and any correspondence with HR 2. File your taxes and set up a payment plan with the IRS as soon as possible to minimize penalties and interest 3. Have a serious conversation with your employer about covering at least the penalties and interest, since this was clearly their mistake 4. Request "first-time penalty abatement" from the IRS if you have a clean tax history The fact that you have proof of submitting a correctly filled out W4 form is important evidence that this wasn't your fault. While it may not eliminate your tax liability, it strengthens your case for penalty relief and shows your employer should take responsibility for their error. Consider consulting with a tax professional if the amount is significant enough to warrant the cost - they might spot additional options or help you negotiate with both the IRS and your employer more effectively.
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Sean Kelly
•This is really solid advice, especially about documenting everything. I'd add that you should also request copies of your complete payroll file from HR to see if there are any other discrepancies or notes about how the W4 processing went wrong. Sometimes there are internal emails or system logs that could help explain what happened. Also, when you do talk to your employer about covering penalties/interest, consider bringing up the potential impact on other employees - if they made this mistake with your W4, they might have similar issues with other people's forms. That could give them more incentive to work with you and review their entire payroll process.
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