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Zoe Stavros

Employer messed up W4 withholding - Now I Owe $7k in Taxes

So I started a new position back in January 2024, and I'm freaking out over my taxes. When I filled out my W4 (I'm married with two children), I made sure to complete everything correctly and signed it. Just did my taxes for filing and discovered I owe over $7,000 to the IRS! After digging through my paystubs, I realized absolutely ZERO federal taxes were withheld all year. I know I should've checked my stubs more carefully, but here's the weird part - my employer has TWO W4 forms on file for me. One is completely blank but has my signature, while the other one is filled out properly with all my correct info and also signed by me. Both are dated the same day. I didn't even notice anything wrong with my paychecks because I actually took a slight pay cut coming to this job (previous position paid better but had terrible hours). Now I'm completely stressed about owing $7k that I don't have. Is this entirely my responsibility since I didn't catch the mistake, or is there anything I can do since I actually did complete my W4 correctly? Can the employer be held responsible at all since they have both a blank AND a correct W4 from me?

Jamal Harris

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This is unfortunately a common issue, but you do have some options here. The good news is that you have proof you submitted the correct W4 form, which will help your case. First, talk to your payroll department immediately. Bring copies of both W4s they have on file and ask them to explain why no federal taxes were withheld despite having a properly completed form. Request they document this error in writing. Second, while technically you're still responsible for the tax liability (the IRS sees this as ultimately your responsibility), you may be able to request a payment plan through the IRS. Form 9465 can help you set up an installment agreement to pay off the amount over time. Third, since your employer clearly made an error (having two forms with one being blank), you could request they help cover some portion of this unexpected tax burden, especially penalties or interest. Many employers will work with you when they've made a payroll error. Most importantly, check your current withholding immediately to prevent this from happening again. You might need to adjust your current W4 to withhold extra to help cover this past liability.

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GalaxyGlider

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Thanks for the advice! Quick question - if the employer admits fault, could they be required to pay the penalties and interest even if I'm still on the hook for the actual tax amount? And would I need to get a tax professional involved to negotiate with them or can I handle it myself?

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Jamal Harris

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The employer would not be legally required to pay penalties or interest - unfortunately, the IRS holds the taxpayer responsible regardless of why the withholding wasn't done correctly. However, many employers will voluntarily cover these costs if they clearly made the error, especially to maintain good employee relations. You don't necessarily need a tax professional to negotiate with your employer, but it might help to consult with one briefly to understand exactly how much of your tax bill is the base tax versus penalties and interest. This gives you a clear figure when discussing with your employer what portion you're asking them to cover.

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I'm a payroll specialist, and I can tell you that having two W4s with the same date is a HUGE red flag. What likely happened is that someone in HR/payroll used the blank form instead of your completed one when setting up your withholding. This is 100% their error. Print out all your pay stubs showing zero federal withholding, bring copies of both W4s, and request a meeting with both HR and payroll. Don't be accusatory, but be firm that their error has caused you significant financial hardship. Many companies will work with you on this - I've seen employers offer interest-free loans to employees to cover tax bills caused by company errors. Also, request they issue a letter acknowledging their error, which can help if you request a penalty abatement from the IRS. First-time penalty abatement is often granted, especially with documentation of employer error.

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Zoe Stavros

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Thank you so much for this perspective! Do you think I should approach my direct supervisor first or go straight to HR/payroll? I'm worried about coming across as confrontational, but this is such a huge amount of money for me.

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I would recommend going directly to HR/payroll rather than your supervisor. This is a payroll administration issue, not a management issue, and your supervisor likely won't have the authority or expertise to address it properly. When you approach HR/payroll, frame it as seeking their help to resolve an unfortunate situation rather than placing blame. Bring all your documentation and explain that you've discovered this discrepancy between your properly completed W4 and what was actually implemented. Most payroll professionals will recognize this as a serious error on their part and will want to make it right.

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Sofia Torres

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This happened to me last year! Check if your company has something called "salary continuation" or "tax equalization" in their benefits package. My company had this policy where if they made a payroll error that resulted in employee tax liability, they would cover the difference. I discovered this buried in our employee handbook after a similar withholding issue. HR initially tried to say I was responsible, but once I pointed to their own policy, they covered the entire amount I owed plus penalties.

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That's actually really good advice. I work in benefits administration and can confirm many larger companies have policies like this but don't advertise them. It's definitely worth checking your employee handbook or benefits portal.

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