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Royal_GM_Mark

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processed = they looked at it. processing = they looking at it. paid = we still waiting 😤

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why is this so accurate tho šŸ’€

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As someone who's been through this process multiple times, I can confirm what Lauren said is spot on! The key thing to remember is that "processed" doesn't automatically mean approved - it just means they're done reviewing your return. I've had returns go to processed status and then get additional review codes added later. The real indicator is looking for specific codes like 846 (refund issued) or 971 (notice issued) on your transcript. Also check your "as of" date - if it's current, that's usually a good sign. Don't stress too much about the daily checking though, once it's processed the refund typically comes within 1-3 weeks if everything is approved!

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Juan Moreno

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Thanks for breaking this down! @d1ebf4b48088 and @591fc2fae192 both explained it really well. I'm new to checking transcripts and was getting confused by all the different statuses. So basically I should be looking for code 846 specifically rather than just the processing/processed status change? Also what does the "as of" date actually mean - is that when they finished reviewing or when the refund gets sent out?

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Quick tip: start documenting EVERYTHING now. Save emails about your schedule, take screenshots of your timesheets, note when you're using company equipment, save any communications about how they want work done. If your boss ever refers to you as an "employee" in writing, save that too! I went through a misclassification case that took 11 months to resolve, and what made the difference was having a paper trail showing how much control the company had over my work. The company tried claiming I had "independence" but I had emails showing they dictated my hours, location, and exactly how they wanted projects completed.

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Riya Sharma

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This is the real key right here. I didn't have good documentation and my case got stuck in limbo. Question though - did you have any issues with looking at or downloading company emails after you started the process? Worried about accessing my work account if things get tense.

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Great question about email access - that's something I worried about too. I made sure to forward key emails to my personal account early on, but I was careful to only save things that directly related to my work classification (not confidential company info). Once I started the SS-8 process, I stopped accessing work email from home and only checked it during work hours to avoid any appearance of impropriety. My employer never restricted my access, but I wanted to be extra cautious. Pro tip: if you have a work phone where they text you about schedules or assignments, screenshot those too. Text messages showing them directing when and how you work are pure gold for proving employee status. Also save any handbook pages or policies they expect you to follow - true contractors don't typically have to follow employee handbooks. The documentation really is everything. I had over 40 pieces of evidence showing behavioral control, and it made my case rock solid.

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Nalani Liu

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Has anyone considered that OP might be confused about what "unearned income" means? Scholarships used for qualified expenses aren't taxable income at all. Only scholarships that exceed your education expenses or are used for room and board are taxable. It sounds like your scholarship was less than your tuition, so none of it should count as taxable unearned income. I think you're getting tripped up by the tax software.

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Axel Bourke

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This! The kiddie tax (Form 8615) applies to investment income, not scholarships used for tuition. OP probably just needs to correctly categorize the scholarship in their tax software. Most have a specific question about whether the scholarship was used for qualified education expenses.

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I'm sorry you're dealing with this stressful situation, especially with the family complications involved. Based on what you've described, it sounds like you shouldn't need to file Form 8615 at all. You mentioned you're 20, worked full-time, and provided more than half of your own support. This is key - the "kiddie tax" that Form 8615 addresses doesn't apply to students who are financially independent. The fact that you paid your own rent, groceries, and utilities while working full-time clearly demonstrates you're supporting yourself. Additionally, since your $3,000 scholarship went entirely toward your $8,500 tuition (qualified education expenses), none of that scholarship money counts as taxable unearned income. The software is likely flagging this incorrectly. For your tax software issue, try these steps: 1. Double-check that you marked "Yes" when asked if you provided more than half of your own support 2. In the scholarship/education section, make sure you indicated the full $3,000 was used for qualified education expenses 3. Look for an override option - many tax programs have a way to skip forms that don't apply If the software still won't cooperate, you might need to contact their support or consider switching to a different tax program. You definitely shouldn't need your mother's SSN for this situation, and I'm sorry you're having to navigate tax issues while dealing with family estrangement.

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$5,784 HOH Refund on Hold - Code 570 from March 20 with EIC $3,533 - Will I Get My Money?

I see a negative balance of -$5,784.00 on my transcript dated March 20, 2023. I'm trying to understand what this means for my refund because I really need this money right now. Looking at my transcript in detail: ANY MINUS SIGN SHOWN BELOW SIGNIFIES A CREDIT AMOUNT ACCOUNT BALANCE: -$5,784.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: $0.00 AS OF: Mar. 21, 2023 ACCRUED PENALTY: $0.00 AS OF: Mar. 21, 2023 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): -$5,784.00 Under INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED: EXEMPTIONS: 02 FILING STATUS: Head of Household ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: [blank] TAXABLE INCOME: [blank] TAX PER RETURN: [blank] SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: $0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: $0.00 TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: $0.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER): Apr. 16, 2023 PROCESSING DATE: Mar. 20, 2023 The transactions listed are: CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION - CYCLE - DATE - AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed - 20230905 - 03-20-2023 - $0.00 30211-449-79991-3 766 Credit to your account - 04-16-2023 - -$1,600.00 766 Credit to your account - 04-16-2023 - -$651.00 570 Additional account action pending - 03-20-2023 - $0.00 768 Earned income credit - 04-16-2023 - -$3,533.00 I'm concerned about the 570 code that shows "Additional account action pending" from March 20, 2023. Does this mean my refund is being held up? The negative balance shows I'm due a refund of $5,784.00, which includes my EIC of $3,533.00 plus those two credits of $1,600.00 and $651.00 that were dated April 16, 2023. I filed Head of Household with 2 exemptions, and my return was processed on March 20, 2023 (cycle 20230905). Anyone know what this 570 code means for my refund timeline? Will I still get the full amount shown? Really anxious about this as I'm counting on this money.

Nolan Carter

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u should check if u have a 971 code coming up next. usually follows the 570

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Josef Tearle

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Looking at your transcript, the 570 code from March 20th typically indicates the IRS is reviewing your return for accuracy - this is pretty common with Head of Household filers claiming EIC, especially with the amount you're getting ($3,533). The good news is your refund amount of $5,784 is already calculated and shows as a credit balance. Since it's been several weeks already, you should expect movement soon. Keep checking your transcript weekly for a 971 code (notice issued) or 846 code (refund issued). The 971 usually comes first if they need additional verification from you. One thing I noticed - your transcript shows the credits dated April 16, 2023, but you mentioned this is from March 20, 2023. Just want to make sure you're looking at the right tax year's transcript (2022). If this timeline seems off, double-check you have the correct year selected. Most 570 holds resolve within 6-8 weeks without any action needed from you. Hang in there! šŸ¤ž

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US tax residency status question - F-1 visa holder moving to Germany but visiting US frequently

I came to the US back in 2019 on my F-1 visa. Based on the 5-year exemption rule for F-1 visa holders, I became a tax resident in 2024. I relocated to Germany in November 2024 for a new job opportunity, but I'm planning to file as a tax resident for 2024, report my worldwide income, and claim Foreign Tax Credit since this seemed like the simpler approach. My situation gets complicated because I'll be traveling to the US quite often to visit my partner (we're not legally married), who is a US tax resident. I'll be back in the States at the end of December on a B1 visa, and my total time in the US during 2025 will likely exceed 31 days throughout the year. From what I understand (and counting my days from 2024), this would mean I'd pass the Substantial Presence Test. However, since I'm establishing tax residency in Germany with clear ties here (employment, housing, etc.), I don't think I need to file US taxes even if I stay in the US for more than 31 days in 2025. I have several questions: 1) Is my understanding correct? 2) Should I proactively report my change in tax status to the IRS at the end of 2024? 3) Is filing as a tax resident for the entire year a good choice, or should I file a dual-status return instead? If dual-status is better, how would my December visit affect this? Will my resident alien status be until November when I left and established tax residency in Germany? 4) How would things change if we officially get married in 2025? Would I need to file US taxes as a resident/NRA? (I understand my partner would have to file as married filing separately) 5) What if I apply for a Green Card in 2025? Does an approved I-140 make me a "US person" for tax purposes?

Ryan Young

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Has anyone here dealt with the green card application and its tax implications? I'm in a similar situation where I'm working in Canada but dating someone in the US and considering applying for a green card in 2025.

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Sophia Clark

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I went through this last year. Just having an approved I-140 (petition) doesn't make you a tax resident. You become a resident for tax purposes on the first day you're present in the US as a permanent resident (when you actually get the physical green card). But here's what many don't realize - once you GET the green card, you're a US tax resident even if you live outside the US! Unless you formally abandon it or take a treaty position, you'll have to report worldwide income to the US forever, even living abroad. Think carefully before applying!

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Oliver Cheng

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I'm in a somewhat similar situation - moved from the US to the UK after my F-1 status and dealing with the complexity of dual tax obligations. A few additional points that might help: Regarding your question about proactive reporting - while you don't need to formally notify the IRS of your move, make sure you update your address with them using Form 8822. This ensures any correspondence reaches you in Germany. For the dual-status vs full-year resident question, consider the timing of your German employment start. If you began earning German income in November, a dual-status return might actually be more beneficial since you can exclude the German-sourced income from the non-resident portion of the year, potentially reducing your US tax liability. One thing to watch out for - if you're planning frequent US visits, keep detailed records of your entry/exit dates. The substantial presence test can be tricky with multiple short visits, and you'll need accurate day counts for Form 8840 if you claim the closer connection exception. Also, don't forget about potential German tax obligations on your 2024 US income. Germany generally taxes worldwide income for residents, so you might need to report your pre-November US earnings there too. The US-Germany tax treaty should prevent double taxation, but the paperwork can be complex. Good luck with everything! International tax compliance is definitely not straightforward, but staying organized with documentation will save you headaches later.

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