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I had the exact same experience with the ID verification after switching from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA this year! It's definitely frustrating when you've been filing the same way for years and suddenly get flagged. One thing that helped me track progress was setting up the IRS online account to view my tax transcript - it shows much more detail than Where's My Refund. Look for codes like 971 (which indicates identity verification) and 570 (which means your account is frozen pending verification). Once you see a code 571, that means the freeze has been released and your refund should process within a few days. The whole process took about 12 business days for me from verification to actual refund deposit. I know it's nerve-wracking when you're used to getting your refund on schedule, but it sounds like you did everything correctly. Just give it a few more days and you should see movement!
This is super helpful info about the transcript codes! I had no idea those specific numbers meant different things. I'm going to set up that IRS online account today to check my transcript. It's reassuring to know that 12 business days is normal - I was starting to panic that something went wrong with my verification. Thanks for breaking down what to look for!
This is such a relief to read! I'm going through the exact same thing right now - filed with FreeTaxUSA for the first time after years of using TurboTax, and got hit with the ID.me verification request. I was so worried I'd done something wrong or that my return was flagged for audit. I completed the ID.me process about a week ago and have been obsessively checking Where's My Refund every day with no updates. Reading all these experiences makes me feel so much better - it sounds like 7-14 business days is totally normal for the verification processing. I'm definitely going to set up that IRS online account to check my transcript like others suggested. It's frustrating that the IRS doesn't communicate these timelines better, but at least now I know this is just part of their new security measures and not a sign that something's wrong with my return. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!
I actually maintain a spreadsheet for exactly this purpose! After getting burned by surprise non-qualified dividends a few years back, I started tracking the treaty status for different countries. The IRS doesn't make it easy, but here are some key resources I've found helpful: 1) Publication 515 (Withholding of Tax on Nonresident Aliens and Foreign Entities) has the most comprehensive treaty information 2) The IRS website has a "United States Income Tax Treaties - A to Z" page that lists all treaties, but you have to dig into each one to see if it includes the information exchange provisions 3) Most importantly, look for treaties that reference "Article 26" or similar language about "Exchange of Information" - that's usually the qualifying provision From my research, countries like Canada, UK, Germany, Netherlands, and most EU countries have the comprehensive treaties that allow OTC stocks to produce qualified dividends. Meanwhile, China, Japan (surprisingly!), and several other Asian countries have basic treaties that don't include the required exchange provisions. One thing that really surprised me was that some countries you'd expect to have comprehensive treaties (like Japan) actually don't for this specific purpose. It's not necessarily correlated with how developed or trustworthy the country is from a trade perspective. Happy to share my spreadsheet template if anyone's interested - just took me forever to compile all this info and would hate for others to have to start from scratch!
This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea about the Article 26 provision being the key differentiator. I've been investing in foreign stocks for years without really understanding why some dividends were qualified and others weren't - just took whatever my broker told me at face value. Would you mind sharing that spreadsheet template? I'm building up my international holdings and this would save me tons of research time. It's frustrating that this information isn't more readily available or clearly disclosed by brokers when you're making investment decisions. Also, you mentioned Japan surprisingly doesn't have the comprehensive treaty - that's shocking given how developed their financial markets are! Makes me wonder what other "obvious" countries might be missing this provision.
This thread has been incredibly enlightening! I've been holding TCEHY for about two years now and just accepted that the dividends were non-qualified without really understanding why. The explanation about China's tax treaty lacking the specific "exchange of information program" provision finally makes it clear. What's particularly frustrating is that this seems like something that should be much more transparent upfront. When you're researching foreign stocks on broker platforms, they'll show you all sorts of data about the company, but nowhere does it clearly indicate "hey, by the way, dividends from this stock will be taxed at your ordinary income rate instead of the preferential rate." For those of us building long-term dividend portfolios, this can significantly impact the after-tax returns. I'm now wondering if I should reconsider some of my Chinese ADR positions and maybe look at alternatives that trade directly on major US exchanges instead of OTC. @Geoff Richards - I'd also love to get a copy of that spreadsheet template if you're willing to share it! Having a clear reference for which countries have qualifying treaties would be invaluable for future investment decisions. It's amazing how much research we have to do ourselves on tax implications that really should be more readily available.
You've hit on something that really bothers me about how foreign stock investing is presented to retail investors. The tax implications can be so significant, yet they're treated like fine print that you only discover after the fact. I've been thinking about this issue since reading through all these responses, and it seems like there's a real information gap in the market. Most investing platforms will show you expense ratios down to basis points for ETFs, but won't clearly flag that your foreign dividend stocks might get hit with much higher tax rates. @James Johnson @Isabella Santos - The lack of transparency really does force us to become tax researchers on top of being investors. I wonder if this is part of why some people stick to domestic dividend stocks even when foreign opportunities might be compelling from a business perspective. The tax complexity just adds another layer of decision-making that many investors probably don t want'to deal with. It makes me curious whether there are any advocacy efforts to push brokers toward better disclosure of these tax implications at the point of purchase, similar to how they re required'to provide risk disclosures for options trading.
Just to throw in my experience - I skipped filing Form 6251 last year when I had a small ISO exercise (around $6,000 spread) because my calculations showed I owed zero AMT. Got a letter from the IRS three months later asking me to submit the form. Wasn't a full audit or anything, but definitely created extra work I could have avoided.
Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like Form 6251 is pretty much required when you have ISO activity, even if you don't owe AMT. I'm dealing with a similar situation - exercised some ISOs last year and trying to figure out the most cost-effective way to handle my taxes. Has anyone tried just preparing the Form 6251 by hand and then entering the results into FreeTaxUSA manually? I'm wondering if that might be a middle-ground approach that avoids the expensive software while still meeting the IRS requirements. The form itself doesn't seem too complex if you have your Form 3921 information handy. Also curious if there are any good resources or guides specifically for calculating AMT on ISOs that don't require expensive software subscriptions?
I actually did exactly what you're suggesting - prepared Form 6251 by hand and then entered the results into FreeTaxUSA manually. It's definitely doable if you're comfortable with tax forms and have your Form 3921 handy. The IRS has pretty clear instructions for Form 6251, and there are worksheets that walk you through the AMT calculation step by step. I used IRS Publication 535 and the form instructions to figure out how to calculate the adjustment for my ISOs. The trickiest part was understanding how to calculate the AMT adjustment (the difference between fair market value and exercise price), but once you have that number, the rest of the form is straightforward arithmetic. For resources, I found the IRS's own AMT Assistant tool helpful for understanding the concepts, even though it doesn't handle the specific ISO calculations. The key is making sure you report the bargain element from your ISOs as an AMT preference item on line 2j of Form 6251. It took me about an hour to work through everything, but I saved probably $50+ compared to upgrading to tax software that handles it automatically. Just make sure to double-check your math since you're doing it manually!
Don't forget about Form 8949! A lot of new investors miss this. Schedule D is actually a summary form, and Form 8949 is where you list the details. If your 1099-B is complete and accurate (with all cost basis reported to the IRS), you might be able to skip detailed reporting on 8949 and just put the totals directly on Schedule D. But if you have any transactions where the cost basis wasn't reported to the IRS, or if you need to make adjustments to what your broker reported, you'll need to complete Form 8949 as well. FreeTaxUSA should walk you through this, but just be aware of it. For cryptocurrency specifically, most brokers don't report cost basis to the IRS yet, so you'll likely need to report those transactions in a separate section of Form 8949.
This is exactly what confused me last year! I thought Schedule D was all I needed, then got a letter from the IRS months later because I didn't properly complete Form 8949 for some transactions where cost basis wasn't reported. It's definitely worth taking the extra time to make sure you're reporting everything correctly.
As someone who went through this exact nightmare last year with about 80 trades across multiple platforms, I feel your pain! Here's what I wish someone had told me from the start: First, don't panic - FreeTaxUSA really does handle this well once you understand the process. The key thing to remember is that Schedule D is just a summary of your gains and losses, grouped by categories (short-term vs long-term, covered vs non-covered). Here's my step-by-step approach that worked: 1. Download all your 1099-B forms and any supplemental statements from your brokers 2. Separate transactions into the four main buckets: short-term covered, short-term non-covered, long-term covered, long-term non-covered 3. For each bucket, add up total proceeds, total cost basis, and any wash sale adjustments 4. Enter these summary totals into FreeTaxUSA For your crypto transactions, those will likely be in the "non-covered" category since most brokers don't report crypto cost basis to the IRS yet. Make sure to keep those separate from your stock trades. The dividends you mentioned are reported separately on Schedule B, so don't worry about mixing those with your Schedule D calculations. One last tip: double and triple-check that your final totals match exactly what's on your 1099-B forms. Even a penny difference can trigger IRS correspondence later. Take your time - it's better to be accurate than fast!
Isabella Oliveira
One thing nobody mentioned yet - check if your spouse has ever been a victim of identity theft. My wife and I had a similar rejection and after weeks of back and forth, we discovered someone had filed a fraudulent return using her SSN the previous year, which put a flag on her SSN in the IRS system. We had to go through the identity theft resolution process with the IRS and file an affidavit. It was a pain but eventually got resolved. Might be worth checking your credit reports too just to be safe.
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Ravi Patel
ā¢Was there any indication of the identity theft before your tax rejection? Like weird credit card charges or anything? Or was the tax rejection the first sign something was wrong?
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Paloma Clark
I went through something very similar last year! The key thing to understand is that the IRS rejection doesn't always tell you the exact problem - it just says there's a mismatch. In my case, it wasn't the SSN itself but how my husband's name was formatted. Here's what I'd recommend doing in order: 1. **Check the Social Security card character by character** - Look for spaces, hyphens, periods, or middle initials that might be on the card but not in your return (or vice versa). Even a missing period after a middle initial can cause rejection. 2. **Call SSA first, not the IRS** - The Social Security Administration at 1-800-772-1213 can tell you exactly how your spouse's name appears in their system. This is what the IRS cross-references against. 3. **Don't assume last year's format is still correct** - Sometimes the IRS tightens their matching algorithms or updates their systems, causing previously accepted formats to suddenly get rejected. If the SSA confirms everything matches and you're still getting rejected, then it might be worth exploring other causes like identity theft flags or prior year discrepancies. But start with the name formatting - that's the culprit in about 80% of these cases. The good news is once you identify the exact issue, the fix is usually simple and your amended return should process quickly!
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