Form 8938 Penalties for Foreign Financial Accounts - Amending Previous Returns
I've taken on a client who's been studying in the US for over 5 years now (making her a resident for tax purposes). She's from a country without a US tax treaty. Turns out she had foreign accounts that exceeded $75k in 2023, but never filed the Form 8938 with her return. She also didn't report some income from outside the US last year because of bad advice from someone at her university. Since she's a student with minimal income, the additional foreign income wouldn't actually create any federal tax liability, but she wants to come clean about everything because of her visa status. From what I understand, missing the 8938 filing comes with a potential $10,000 penalty unless there's "reasonable cause." Not sure if getting bad advice from her university would qualify as reasonable cause, and I'd rather not get into a fight with the IRS about it. Has anyone dealt with this kind of situation before? I'm specifically wondering how the IRS typically responds to amended returns that suddenly include additional foreign income and a late Form 8938. Would they be likely to waive penalties or come down hard? Any insights would really help me advise her on the best approach!
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Amina Sy
This is a situation I've encountered several times with international students. The key thing to remember is that the IRS generally treats honest disclosure favorably, especially when it comes to foreign account reporting. For your client, I'd recommend filing an amended return that includes both the previously unreported income and a late Form 8938. Include a detailed statement explaining the circumstances - that she received incorrect advice from her university's international student office, that she's voluntarily coming forward as soon as she learned of the requirement, and that no tax was actually due. The reasonable cause exception can absolutely apply here. Poor advice from a trusted source (university advisors) that a student would reasonably rely on is a valid argument. Make sure to document who gave the advice and when. The fact that no tax was evaded strengthens her case considerably. I've seen the IRS be quite reasonable in similar situations, particularly with students who are making good faith efforts to comply once they discover their mistake.
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Oliver Fischer
•What about the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures? Would that be a better option than just filing an amended return in this case?
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Amina Sy
•The Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures are generally used for more serious non-compliance situations, especially where there might be multiple years of unfiled FBARs or significant unreported income. In this case, since we're dealing with just one year and no actual tax due, a straightforward amended return with a reasonable cause statement is likely sufficient. For Streamlined Procedures, the client would need to certify that their previous failures were "non-willful," file three years of amended returns, and pay a 5% miscellaneous offshore penalty on the highest aggregate balance of their foreign assets. It's a more complex process that might be overkill for this situation.
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Ravi Choudhury
Just a heads up - your client might also need to file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) if the aggregate value of her foreign accounts exceeded $10,000 at any point during the year. The FBAR is separate from Form 8938 and has its own (even more severe) penalties. The good news is that there's a specific procedure for filing late FBARs when there's reasonable cause, and the IRS has been pretty lenient with first-time violations, especially for students who weren't aware of the requirement.
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Freya Andersen
•Is the FBAR deadline the same as the tax return deadline? Or does it have different rules?
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Ravi Choudhury
•The FBAR has a different deadline than regular tax returns. It's now due April 15th, but there's an automatic extension to October 15th each year - you don't need to request the extension. This changed a few years ago to align more closely with tax filing season. The FBAR is also filed differently - it's not submitted with your tax return but rather filed electronically through the FinCEN BSA E-Filing System. It's a completely separate system from the IRS e-file system, which confuses a lot of people.
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Omar Farouk
Anybody know if there's a specific IRS form for requesting penalty abatement for Form 8938 penalties? Or do you just write a letter explaining the reasonable cause?
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CosmicCadet
•There's no specific form for requesting penalty abatement for Form 8938. You'd include a detailed reasonable cause statement with your amended return explaining why the form wasn't filed originally. Make it clear, specific, and include any supporting documentation (like emails from advisors who gave incorrect advice).
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Javier Cruz
I've handled several similar cases with international students, and your approach sounds solid. One thing I'd add - make sure to document the timeline carefully. When did she receive the bad advice, when did she discover the requirement, and when is she coming forward? The IRS likes to see that taxpayers acted promptly once they became aware of their obligations. Also consider having her write a personal statement (in her own words) explaining her situation as a student, her reliance on university advisors, and her good faith intent to comply. Sometimes these personal narratives carry more weight than just the technical reasonable cause arguments. The fact that there's no actual tax due is huge in your favor. The IRS is generally much more forgiving when it's purely a reporting issue without tax avoidance. I'd be optimistic about getting the penalties waived, especially if you present it well.
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