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Avery Davis

Filing W-8BEN-E Form for Canadian Corporation on App Store - U.S. Certificate of Foreign Status Requirements

Hey everyone! I recently incorporated my app development business in Canada and I'm trying to figure out the whole W-8BEN-E situation with Apple's App Store. I've been selling apps as an individual developer for a while, but now that I've formed my own Canadian corporation with only Canadian shareholders, I'm confused about the tax forms. I'm getting income from in-app purchases (customers unlocking premium features) and I need to properly fill out this U.S. Certificate of Foreign Status of Beneficial Owner form on the App Store. When I was a solo developer, the process seemed more straightforward with just the W-8BEN form. Does anyone have experience with filing W-8BEN-E specifically for a Canadian corporation distributing through Apple's App Store? I'm confused about several sections of the form, especially around beneficial ownership classification. I'm the only shareholder right now, if that matters. Any advice from fellow Canadian devs who've gone through this process would be super helpful!

Collins Angel

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The W-8BEN-E is definitely more complex than the W-8BEN you used as an individual. As a Canadian corporation selling digital products on the App Store, you'll need to complete this form to certify your foreign status and claim treaty benefits to avoid or reduce US withholding tax. For a typical Canadian corporation with only Canadian shareholders, you'll likely classify as a "foreign corporation" on the form. Pay special attention to Part I (identification of beneficial owner) and Part III (claim of tax treaty benefits). Under the US-Canada tax treaty (Article XII), royalties are typically subject to a reduced 10% withholding rate rather than the standard 30%. Make sure you have your Canadian business number and tax identification ready. You'll also need to determine if you qualify for the "limitation on benefits" provisions in the tax treaty, which for a simple Canadian corporation with Canadian ownership should be straightforward - usually checking box "Company that meets the ownership and base erosion test.

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Marcelle Drum

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Thanks for the info! I'm in a similar situation but confused about the "limitation on benefits" part. My corporation is just me - I'm the only shareholder. Does that affect which box I should check? Also, are app purchases considered royalties under the treaty? Some places I've read call them "business profits.

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Collins Angel

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For a single-shareholder Canadian corporation, you would likely still check the "Company that meets the ownership and base erosion test" since you (a Canadian resident) own more than 50% of the corporation. This satisfies the ownership requirement. Regarding app purchases, there's some nuance there. Most tax authorities consider app purchases and in-app unlockable features as royalties under the US-Canada treaty, which would be subject to the 10% withholding. However, business profits might apply in some circumstances. The determining factor is usually whether the transaction represents a right to use intellectual property (royalty) versus a straightforward sale of digital goods (business profit). Most in-app purchases for unlocking functionality are treated as royalties.

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Tate Jensen

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Adaline Wong

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Tate Jensen

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Adaline Wong

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I've been through this exact process with my Canadian development studio. One thing nobody mentioned is that you need to distinguish between different types of app revenue. According to the US-Canada tax treaty: - One-time app purchases are typically considered business profits (Article VII) with 0% withholding - In-app purchases for digital goods/features are usually royalties (Article XII) with 10% withholding - Subscription services can fall under either category depending on exactly what you're providing Apple will apply different withholding rates to different revenue streams based on how you classify your business and the type of income. Make sure your W-8BEN-E correctly reflects your specific situation.

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Avery Davis

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Thanks for breaking this down! In my case, about 90% of my revenue comes from users unlocking premium features in the app. Would all of that fall under royalties then? And does Apple automatically apply the right withholding based on the W-8BEN-E, or do I need to specifically tell them which revenue streams should have which rates?

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Premium feature unlocks typically fall under royalties in the US-Canada treaty context, so yes, that would generally be subject to the 10% withholding. However, if the features are more like purchasing a separate software product rather than licensing functionality, there might be an argument for business profits. Apple's system is designed to automatically apply the appropriate withholding based on both your W-8BEN-E form and how they categorize your specific revenue streams. You don't typically need to tell them which streams get which rates - their system handles that based on the type of transaction. However, it's worth checking your payment reports carefully for the first few months after filing the W-8BEN-E to ensure the withholding amounts seem correct.

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Has anyone actually filed their Canadian corporate taxes after receiving App Store income with the W-8BEN-E in place? I'm confused about how to handle the foreign tax credit on the Canadian side.

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Ezra Beard

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Yes, I have. On your T2 corporate return, you'll need to complete Form T2209 (Federal Foreign Tax Credits) for the withholding tax that Apple collected. Keep in mind that you'll need documentation of the tax withheld - Apple provides this in their financial reports. You'll also need to report the full income (pre-withholding) as foreign business income. The CRA generally respects the foreign tax credit for properly withheld US taxes.

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Rhett Bowman

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Great thread! I went through this same process last year when I incorporated my app business in Ontario. One thing that really helped me was keeping detailed records of exactly what types of transactions I was processing through the App Store - Apple's revenue reports can be quite detailed if you dig into them. For the W-8BEN-E form, I found Part II (disregarded entity or branch receiving the payment) was often left blank for simple Canadian corporations, but make sure you understand whether this applies to your situation. Also, don't forget that once you file the W-8BEN-E, it's generally valid for three years unless your circumstances change significantly. One gotcha I ran into: if you ever take on US investors or partners, you'll need to update your beneficial ownership information and potentially refile. The form is tied to your ownership structure, not just your corporate registration location. For anyone still struggling with the classification between business profits vs royalties, I'd recommend documenting your decision-making process. The CRA and IRS generally want to see that you've made a reasonable, consistent interpretation of the treaty provisions.

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Sarah Jones

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in the early stages of incorporating my app business in Alberta and this W-8BEN-E stuff has been keeping me up at night. One question I haven't seen addressed - does the timing of when you file the W-8BEN-E with Apple matter? I'm still operating as a sole proprietor right now but plan to incorporate next month. Should I wait until after incorporation to file the corporate form, or can I file it in advance? Also, for those who've been through this - how long does it typically take Apple to process the form and start applying the correct withholding rates? I want to make sure I time this right so I don't end up with messy tax situations spanning across my transition from individual to corporate status. The breakdown of business profits vs royalties that @Sophia Gabriel provided is super valuable - I had no idea there were different rates for different types of app revenue streams!

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Kaiya Rivera

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You definitely want to wait until after incorporation to file the W-8BEN-E! The form is specifically tied to your corporate entity, so filing it before you're actually incorporated could create complications. Apple needs your actual corporate tax ID number and legal entity name, which you won't have until incorporation is complete. From my experience, Apple typically processes W-8BEN-E forms within 2-4 weeks, but I'd recommend filing it as soon as possible after you get your corporate documents. The new withholding rates usually apply to payments processed after the form is approved, not retroactively. For the transition period, you might want to consider timing your incorporation around Apple's payment schedule if possible. They typically pay out monthly, so if you can incorporate right after a payment cycle, you'll have a cleaner break between your sole proprietor and corporate tax situations. Also make sure you update your banking information with Apple at the same time - you'll need a corporate bank account to receive payments under the new entity!

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