How do I fill out the W-8BEN form correctly as an Australian selling apps on iTunes Connect?
Hey everyone, I'm a 19-year-old developer from Australia who's about to publish my first app on iTunes Connect. They're requiring me to complete a W-8BEN form, and I'm completely lost. I've never dealt with international tax forms before and the instructions might as well be written in another language. I'm particularly confused about what to enter in the "U.S. taxpayer identifier number," "Foreign tax identifying number," and "Reference number fields." Do I even have these numbers? Where would I find them? Lines 9 and 10 are also giving me trouble. I think I need to check the box on line 9 which says I'm certifying that I'm an Australian resident under the tax treaty between the US and Australia, but I'm not 100% sure. And I have absolutely no clue what information line 10 requires. If anyone has experience with this form, especially as an Australian developer, I'd really appreciate some guidance. This tax stuff is way more complicated than the actual app development! Cheers!
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Ava Rodriguez
You're on the right track! As an Australian completing a W-8BEN for iTunes Connect, here's what you need to know: For the "U.S. taxpayer identifier number" - leave this blank unless you actually have a U.S. tax ID (which most Australians don't). For "Foreign tax identifying number" - this is your Australian Tax File Number (TFN). If you're 19, you probably have one already for work or university. The "Reference number" field can be left blank - this is only used in specific situations where the withholding agent (Apple in this case) has assigned you a reference number. For line 9, yes, you should check that box since you're certifying you're an Australian resident under the tax treaty. For line 10, you can generally leave this blank unless you're claiming specific treaty benefits beyond the standard withholding rate reduction. For most app developers, the standard treaty provisions apply automatically when you check line 9.
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Miguel Ortiz
•If they're only 19, would they even have a TFN yet? And should they be worried about getting audited by the IRS as a foreign developer?
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Ava Rodriguez
•Most Australians get a TFN when they start their first job or open certain bank accounts, which many do before 19. If they don't have one, they should apply for one through the Australian Taxation Office website as they'll need it when they start receiving income from their app sales. They shouldn't worry about IRS audits if they complete the form correctly. The W-8BEN simply establishes that they're eligible for the reduced withholding tax rate under the Australia-US tax treaty (typically 15% instead of 30%). Apple handles the withholding and reporting to the IRS, so the developer just needs to declare the income on their Australian tax return.
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Zainab Khalil
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QuantumQuest
•Does it work for other international tax forms too? I'm from New Zealand and struggle with similar issues.
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Connor Murphy
•I'm skeptical - how does it know the specific tax treaty details between different countries and the US? Those treaties are complicated legal documents.
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Zainab Khalil
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QuantumQuest
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Yara Haddad
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Keisha Robinson
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Paolo Conti
•Does this actually connect you with official IRS agents or just their own tax advisors? Because getting actual IRS people on the phone is nearly impossible.
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Yara Haddad
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Paolo Conti
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Amina Sow
For the "Foreign tax identifying number" field, make sure you're using your actual TFN and not your ABN if you have one. I made that mistake and had to resubmit. Also, when you sign the form, Apple requires a digital signature, but make sure the date format is in MM-DD-YYYY format (US style) not the DD-MM-YYYY format we use in Australia. I had my form rejected because of that small detail.
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Dmitry Popov
•Thanks for pointing out those details! I do have a TFN from my part-time job, so I'll use that. I hadn't even thought about the date format issue - would've definitely made that mistake. Do you remember if there were any other Australia-specific quirks that tripped you up when submitting to Apple?
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Amina Sow
•Another Australia-specific issue to watch for is making sure you write "Australia" as your country and not "Commonwealth of Australia" which is the official name. Apple's system specifically wants the common name. Also, when it asks for your permanent residence address, make sure it matches exactly how Australia Post formats your address (including state abbreviations like NSW, VIC, etc.). I had a friend whose form was rejected because he spelled out "New South Wales" instead of using "NSW.
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GalaxyGazer
Just a quick tip - make sure to use the most recent version of the W-8BEN form! Apple might not update their documentation, but the IRS updates these forms. I submitted with an outdated version and had to redo everything.
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Oliver Wagner
•Where can you check if the form is current? I'm about to submit mine too.
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Aisha Khan
•You can check for the current version on the IRS website at irs.gov - just search for "Form W-8BEN" and it will show you the most recent revision date. The current version should be dated December 2021. Apple's documentation sometimes references older versions, so it's always worth double-checking directly with the IRS site before submitting.
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Aria Khan
Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who went through this process last year. The W-8BEN form can definitely be intimidating at first, but it's actually quite straightforward once you understand what each section is asking for. One thing that helped me was keeping in mind that this form is basically just telling Apple (and by extension, the IRS) that you're an Australian resident who should benefit from the tax treaty between Australia and the US. This means instead of the default 30% withholding tax, you'll only have 15% withheld from your app sales revenue. A few additional tips from my experience: - Make sure your name on the form matches exactly how it appears on your Australian tax records - For Part II (claim of tax treaty benefits), you'll typically want to specify "Royalties" as the type of income since app sales are generally classified as royalty income - Keep a copy of your completed form for your own records - you'll need to reference it when filing your Australian tax return The good news is that once you get this sorted with Apple, you shouldn't need to resubmit unless your circumstances change significantly. Best of luck with your app launch!
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Rajiv Kumar
•This is really helpful context! I hadn't realized that app sales are classified as royalty income - that explains why the W-8BEN form is required instead of some other tax form. The 15% vs 30% withholding rate difference is significant too, so definitely worth getting this right. Quick question - when you mention keeping a copy for Australian tax records, do you need to attach the W-8BEN to your Australian tax return or just keep it for reference in case the ATO asks about the foreign income?
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