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Isaiah Cross

Help with W-8BEN-E for Canadian Corporation on App Store - U.S. Certificate of Foreign Status requirements

Hey everyone, I recently incorporated my app development business in Canada and I'm trying to figure out the paperwork for the App Store. I used to sell my apps as an individual developer but now I've set up my own corporation with just Canadian shareholders (basically just me and my wife). I'm getting confused about the W-8BEN-E form and this "U.S. Certificate of Foreign Status of Beneficial Owner" requirement on the App Store. When I was an individual, I just filled out a different form, but now with my corporation it seems more complicated. I'm not sure if the income from my apps (I charge for premium features/unlocks) is considered royalties or something else. Does anyone have experience with this as a Canadian corporation? I'm trying to make sure I don't mess up my taxes or get hit with unexpected withholding. Thanks for any help you can offer!

Kiara Greene

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This is definitely something I can help with! The form you need (W-8BEN-E) is specifically for foreign entities (your Canadian corporation), while the W-8BEN form was for you as an individual. App Store payments to foreign corporations are typically classified as royalties under tax treaties. Since you're in Canada, you should qualify for reduced withholding under the US-Canada tax treaty - usually 0% instead of the standard 30% withholding rate, but you need to properly complete the W-8BEN-E to claim this benefit. Make sure you complete Part III of the form (claim of tax treaty benefits) correctly. You'll need to specify Canada as your country, include your Canadian business number, and select the appropriate income type (royalty income). The most common mistake is incorrectly filling out the "Limitation on Benefits" provision section in Part III - for a small Canadian corporation, you'll likely qualify under the "ownership and base erosion" test.

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Isaiah Cross

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Thanks for the reply! So even though I'm technically selling a "service" by unlocking features, the IRS still considers this royalty income? And do you know if I need to fill out this form annually or is it a one-time thing for the App Store?

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Kiara Greene

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Yes, the IRS generally classifies app purchases and in-app payments as royalties since they're payments for the right to use intellectual property. It doesn't matter if it's for unlocking features - it's still considered payment for using your software. For the App Store, you typically only need to submit the W-8BEN-E once, not annually. However, if there are any changes to your business structure or ownership, or if the form expires (they're generally valid for 3 years unless circumstances change), you'll need to submit an updated form. Apple will notify you when a new form is required.

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Paloma Clark

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Did they actually help with the filing itself or just give you guidance? I'm worried about making mistakes since there are so many fields on that form.

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Heather Tyson

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How long did it take to get your analysis back? I'm already behind on getting my corporation set up properly and the App Store is sending me reminders about updating my tax info.

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Sasha Reese

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Just a heads up from another Canadian developer - make sure you also have your business registered for GST/HST if your worldwide digital product revenue exceeds $30,000 CAD in a year. Apple collects and remits the GST/HST on your behalf for sales to Canadian customers, but you still need to report this on your GST/HST returns. This is separate from the W-8BEN-E issue but often overlooked by new Canadian app corporations.

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Isaiah Cross

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Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about GST/HST implications. Do you know if Apple provides any reporting that breaks out the Canadian sales separately so I can see what they've collected and remitted?

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Sasha Reese

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Yes, Apple provides detailed sales and tax reports in App Store Connect that break down GST/HST collected by province. Look under Payments & Financial Reports > Tax (or Sales & Trends > Proceeds). You'll see a report with all the tax collected and remitted on your behalf. When filing your GST/HST return, you'll report these sales as taxable supplies, but also report the tax Apple collected as already remitted, so there's no additional tax to pay on those sales. It's mainly a reporting requirement.

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Has anyone had experience with the Apple Small Business Program while transitioning from individual to corporation? I'm in a similar situation (Canadian corp) and wondering if I need to reapply as the corporation to keep the reduced 15% commission rate?

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Noland Curtis

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Yes, you definitely need to reapply! I just went through this transition. When you change from individual to corporation, you're considered a new developer account for the Small Business Program purposes. I almost missed this and would have defaulted back to the 30% commission rate.

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Gemma Andrews

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! As someone who just went through incorporating my freelance business in Canada, this thread has been incredibly valuable. I want to add one more tip that saved me some headaches: make sure your Canadian business registration information (business number, registered address, etc.) exactly matches what you put on the W-8BEN-E form. Apple's tax validation system is pretty strict about consistency between documents. Also, if you're like me and procrastinated on getting your CRA business number, you can actually get it online instantly through the CRA website once your corporation is registered. You don't have to wait for mail anymore - they give you the number immediately after completing the online application. The combination of properly completing the W-8BEN-E for the 0% withholding rate AND making sure you're enrolled in the Small Business Program for the 15% commission rate can make a huge difference in your bottom line. Don't forget about either one!

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Grace Thomas

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This is such a comprehensive thread - thank you all for sharing your experiences! I'm just starting the incorporation process for my app business and had no idea about half of these requirements. @Gemma Andrews, that tip about getting the CRA business number online instantly is gold - I was dreading waiting weeks for paperwork. And I definitely would have missed reapplying for the Small Business Program if @Noland Curtis hadn t'mentioned it. One quick question for the group: should I wait until my corporation is fully set up before starting the W-8BEN-E process, or can I begin preparing it while the incorporation is still in progress?

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Sean O'Brien

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@Grace Thomas I d'recommend waiting until your incorporation is completely finalized before submitting the W-8BEN-E. You ll'need your official corporate registration number and legal business name exactly as they appear on your incorporation documents. However, you can definitely start familiarizing yourself with the form now! Download it from the IRS website and review all the sections, especially Part III treaty (benefits .)That way once your corporation is official, you ll'just need to fill in the specific details rather than learning the whole form from scratch. Also make sure to get your CRA business number as soon as your incorporation is complete - you ll'need it for the W-8BEN-E and it s'required before you can apply for the Apple Developer Program as a corporation anyway.

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Miguel Silva

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This is an incredibly thorough discussion! As someone who works with international tax compliance, I want to add a few additional points that might help other Canadian developers: 1. **Documentation retention**: Keep copies of your submitted W-8BEN-E and any correspondence with Apple. The IRS can request these during audits, and having proper documentation of your treaty claim is crucial. 2. **Quarterly estimated taxes**: Don't forget that as a Canadian corporation earning US-source income, you may need to make quarterly estimated tax payments to the CRA. The reduced withholding from the treaty means less tax is being withheld upfront, so plan accordingly. 3. **Transfer pricing considerations**: If you have any related entities or if your business structure becomes more complex, be aware of transfer pricing rules. This isn't usually an issue for simple owner-operated corporations, but it's worth understanding if you plan to expand. 4. **State tax implications**: While the federal W-8BEN-E handles federal withholding, some US states have their own sourcing rules for digital products. Most don't tax foreign corporations on royalty income, but it's worth researching if you have significant revenue. The resources mentioned in this thread (taxr.ai for form guidance and Claimyr for IRS contact) seem to have helped several people navigate this successfully. Good luck with your incorporation!

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Dmitry Volkov

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@Miguel Silva thank you for those additional compliance points! The quarterly estimated tax payment reminder is especially important - I learned that the hard way in my first year as a corporation when I got hit with penalties for underpayment. For other new Canadian corporations reading this, I d'recommend setting aside about 25-30% of your net App Store income for taxes throughout the year. Even with the 0% US withholding from the treaty, you ll'still owe Canadian corporate tax on the income. One more thing to add: if you re'transitioning mid-year from individual to corporation like (I did ,)make sure you properly report the income split on both your personal T1 return for (the individual period and) the corporation s'T2 return for (the corporate period .)The CRA is pretty strict about getting those dates exactly right. Has anyone dealt with the transition timing and knows if there are any specific forms needed to notify the CRA about the change in business structure?

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