Filing Taxes as W2 Employee with New Sole Proprietorship Business
Hey tax folks, I need some advice on estimated taxes for my side hustle! I'm a full-time nurse with regular W2 income, but I started a personal training business back in August 2024. I've made about $10,500 so far from training clients. I'm trying to figure out how to handle the Q4 estimated tax payment with these two different income sources. When I use online calculators, they're giving me crazy high numbers because of my nursing salary combined with the business income. I've been putting aside about 35% of my training income for taxes, but I'm not sure if that's enough or how to properly calculate what I owe. Should I just break down and hire an accountant? This dual income thing is confusing me!
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Admin_Masters
The combination of W2 employment and sole proprietorship income is pretty common! Here's how to approach this: First, understand that your W2 job already has taxes withheld, while your sole proprietorship income doesn't. That's why you need to make estimated tax payments on the business income. For your Q4 payment, you have a couple options. One approach is to increase your W2 withholding at your nursing job by submitting a new W-4 to your employer requesting additional withholding. This can cover the taxes on your side business and might be simpler than making separate estimated payments. Alternatively, you can make an estimated payment just on your business income. Take your business revenue, subtract legitimate business expenses, and that's your profit. You'll owe self-employment tax (about 15.3%) plus income tax on that amount. The 35% you're setting aside is actually a good rule of thumb for most people.
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Charlotte White
•Thanks for the quick response! I didn't know I could just adjust my W4 at my nursing job to cover the extra income. How do I figure out how much extra to withhold? And is it too late to adjust my W4 for 2024 since the year is almost over?
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Admin_Masters
•You can definitely still adjust your W-4 for the remainder of 2024, though with limited pay periods left, you'd need to withhold more per paycheck than if you'd started earlier in the year. To calculate how much extra to withhold, estimate your annual profit from the business (revenue minus expenses), then multiply by about 30-35% to account for both income tax and self-employment tax. Divide that amount by the number of remaining paychecks to determine the additional withholding per check. The W-4 has a specific line for additional withholding amounts, so it's pretty straightforward.
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Matthew Sanchez
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Ella Thompson
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JacksonHarris
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Chris King
Don't forget you'll need to file Schedule C for your sole proprietorship along with your regular 1040. Also, you should be tracking ALL your business expenses - mileage to client locations, any equipment you buy, advertising, insurance, etc. Those all reduce your taxable business income! I'd recommend keeping a separate business checking account if you haven't already. Makes it way easier to track income and expenses come tax time. And yes, 30-35% set aside is generally good but remember you're paying both income tax AND self-employment tax (15.3%) on that business income.
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Charlotte White
•Thanks for the reminder about tracking expenses! I've been keeping receipts but honestly haven't been great about logging everything. Do you use any specific apps to track business expenses that you'd recommend? I'd like to start the new year with better habits.
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Chris King
•I use QuickBooks Self-Employed and it's been a life-saver. It lets you connect your business bank account and categorize expenses, plus it tracks mileage automatically if you enable the feature on your phone. There are also free options like Wave which is decent for basic expense tracking. The main thing is consistency - get in the habit of recording everything business-related right away. For receipts, I take photos of them immediately and upload them to the app. Start the new year right and tax time will be so much easier! Even small expenses add up to reduce your taxable income.
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Rachel Clark
Is anyone else getting ridiculous numbers from the IRS estimated tax calculator? When I enter my W2 income plus my side gig, it's telling me I need to pay like 42% of my business income for Q4 alone! That can't be right...
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Zachary Hughes
•The IRS calculator assumes you've made that same business income all year and you haven't made any estimated payments yet. If you just started your business recently, it's calculating as if you've been earning that money since January and haven't paid anything on it. That's why the numbers look crazy high.
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Mia Alvarez
Don't forget that as a sole proprietor you can deduct half of your self-employment tax on your 1040! It's an adjustment to income so you get it even if you don't itemize deductions. A lot of people miss this one.
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Carter Holmes
•Also worth noting you might be able to take the qualified business income deduction (Section 199A) which could give you a deduction of up to 20% of your qualified business income. Definitely something to look into with your business profits!
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Lily Young
As someone who went through this exact same situation last year (RN with a photography side business), I totally get the confusion! Here's what I learned the hard way: The key is understanding that your W2 withholding might already be covering more than you think. Don't just look at raw percentages - you need to consider your effective tax rate across both income streams. One thing that helped me was doing a "tax projection" using Form 1040ES worksheets instead of relying on online calculators. Take your expected total income from both sources, subtract your standard deduction, and calculate the tax on that amount. Then subtract what's already been withheld from your nursing paychecks to see what you actually still owe. Also, make sure you're maximizing business deductions! As a personal trainer, you can likely deduct equipment, continuing education, professional liability insurance, mileage to clients, and even a portion of your phone bill if you use it for business. These deductions can significantly reduce your taxable business income. The 35% you're setting aside is probably conservative, which is good! Better to overpay and get a refund than underpay and face penalties. But you might find you need less once you factor in all legitimate deductions.
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Diego Castillo
•This is such helpful advice, thank you! I'm also new to the whole side business thing and didn't realize how many deductions I might be missing. You mentioned continuing education - does that include certifications? I just got my NASM certification renewed and paid for some specialty courses. Also, for the mileage deduction, do I track it from my home to client locations, or only between different client locations during the same day?
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