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Diez Ellis

Help with Filing Taxes as W2 Teacher and New Sole Proprietor Business

Hey everyone, I need some advice on tax filing this year! I started my event planning business in September 2024 and have earned about $10.5k so far. My main job is teaching high school English, so I'll be getting my W2 from the school district too. I'm super confused about making my Q4 estimated tax payment with these two income sources. When I tried using an online calculator, it gave me this crazy high number because of my teaching salary. So now I'm kinda freaking out - should I just bite the bullet and hire an accountant? I've been putting away about 30-40% of what I make from my business for taxes, but I have no idea if that's enough. Any guidance would be really helpful!

You've got a common situation with dual income streams! For your Q4 estimated payment, you need to consider both income sources together, but there's a simple way to handle this. First, your W2 job already has taxes withheld, which is important. You can adjust your W2 withholding by submitting a new W-4 to your school to cover some of the additional self-employment income. This is often easier than making separate estimated payments. For your sole proprietorship, you'll report this on Schedule C, and yes, you'll owe both income tax and self-employment tax (about 15.3%) on your profits. That 30-40% you're setting aside is a good start! Your actual tax obligation depends on your total income from both sources and your business expenses. Here's a simple approach: calculate your approximate annual profit from the business, then figure the quarterly portion. For $10.5k over 4 months, that might annualize to around $31.5k. After legitimate business expenses, your profit will be lower.

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This is really helpful, but I'm still confused about the W-4 adjustment. If I change my withholding at my teaching job, how do I know how much extra to withhold to cover the business income? Is there a specific calculation or form for this?

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For the W-4 adjustment, you can use the "extra withholding" section on the form. Calculate your estimated additional tax from your business and divide by remaining pay periods. So if you expect to owe about $3,000 more in taxes for the year from your business income, and you have 10 pay periods left, you would request $300 additional withholding per paycheck. For a more precise calculation, the IRS withholding estimator tool online can help account for both income sources. Just input both your W2 job and your expected business income to get a more accurate withholding recommendation.

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Does it handle both W2 income and self-employment income together? I'm a nurse but I do medical consulting on the side and I'm always confused about how they interact tax-wise.

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So I owe everyone here an apology, especially Profile 5. I was totally wrong about Claimyr being a scam. After my snarky comment, I was still desperately trying to get IRS help with my W2 and Sole Prop situation, so I reluctantly tried it. Got a call back in about 35 minutes with an actual IRS tax specialist on the line. She walked me through exactly how my teacher W2 and online business interact tax-wise and confirmed I could adjust my W-4 at school instead of making separate estimated payments. Saved me from overpaying by nearly $900. Honestly shocked this worked. Sorry for being a jerk about it before.

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Teacher with a bakery business here! One thing nobody mentioned yet is that you should keep VERY detailed records of all business expenses for your sole proprietorship. This includes: - Mileage for business travel (like going to meet clients) - Any supplies for wedding planning - Home office deduction if you have dedicated space - Marketing/advertising costs - Professional development related to your business These deductions can significantly reduce your taxable profit, which lowers both your income tax and self-employment tax. I thought I was organized but my first year I missed so many legitimate deductions!

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Thanks for this! I've been tracking expenses but didn't think about mileage. Is there a specific app you recommend for tracking business miles? And for the home office deduction, does it matter if I'm sometimes using my dining room table vs having a dedicated office space?

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I use MileIQ for tracking business miles - super simple and it creates reports you can use for taxes. Some people like Everlance too. For the home office deduction, you unfortunately need a space used exclusively for business. The dining room table wouldn't qualify since it's also used for personal purposes. It needs to be a dedicated area used only for your business. If you have a spare bedroom or even a section of a room that's exclusively for your wedding planning business, that could qualify. The IRS is pretty strict about the "exclusive use" requirement.

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Slightly different approach - I'm also a W2 employee with a side business. Instead of worrying about estimated payments, I just increased my W2 withholding to cover ALL my tax needs. I calculated approximately how much extra tax I'd owe from my business and had my employer withhold additional amounts from each paycheck by adjusting my W-4. This way I don't have to remember quarterly payments or calculate separate amounts. Just make sure you're covering both income tax AND self-employment tax from your business.

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This is exactly what I do! So much simpler than doing estimated payments. My accountant suggested withholding an extra $200 per paycheck to cover my side gig, and I've never had issues or penalties.

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Absolutely! It's been working for me for 3 years now with zero issues. The key is calculating the right additional withholding amount. I worked backwards by estimating my annual business profit, calculating roughly 15.3% for self-employment tax plus my income tax rate (22% bracket), then dividing by my number of paychecks. The peace of mind from not dealing with quarterly payments is totally worth it. And technically, you're also avoiding potential underpayment penalties since the IRS treats withholding as happening evenly throughout the year, even if you increase it later in the year.

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