Self-Employed for First Time - How to Handle My First Quarterly Tax Payment?
I've been a W2 employee my entire career until recently. Got downsized in November 2023 and after a really challenging few months, I launched my own business in February 2024. Surprisingly, it's doing well already, which is a huge relief financially. I formed an LLC and just finished my first quarter with positive income. My Q1 2024 NET income was around $61K, which honestly exceeded my expectations. My accountant is telling me I need to make quarterly estimated tax payments, and I nearly fell out of my chair when they said I should be setting aside 37% of my income for taxes! I texted them to confirm and they responded that yes, this is the correct rate based on my income level. Is this percentage really accurate? It seems absurdly high compared to when I was a W2 employee. I'm honestly feeling sick about it. I've been saving some money for taxes, but nowhere near 37%. I don't even have enough set aside to cover this rate for Q1, and Q2 is looking like it'll be even better financially (which means an even bigger tax bill). What options do I have to reduce my tax liability? My accountant is responsive but doesn't seem focused on helping me minimize what I owe. Are there deductions or strategies I should be considering as a new business owner? Sorry if this is a common question. I'm just completely thrown by how much I apparently owe and would appreciate any direct advice.
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Misterclamation Skyblue
That 37% actually makes sense, but let me break down why it feels so high compared to your W2 days. When you're self-employed, you're paying both sides of FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) - that's an extra 7.65% your employer used to cover. So right away, add that to what you used to pay. Then, your income level puts you in a higher federal tax bracket (probably around 24% federal), plus your state income tax rate (which varies), plus that self-employment tax I mentioned. The good news is you have WAY more deduction opportunities as a business owner! Here are some things to consider: - Set up a home office if you work from home (deduct part of rent/mortgage, utilities) - Track all business miles on your vehicle - Any equipment, software, or supplies are deductible - Health insurance premiums - Retirement contributions (SEP IRA or Solo 401k) - Business travel, meals (50%) You might want to find an accountant who specializes in small business tax planning rather than just compliance. They should be having these conversations with you proactively.
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Gabriel Ruiz
•Thank you for breaking this down. I knew about the "both sides of FICA" thing conceptually but didn't realize how much it would actually impact me. Do those deductions you mentioned directly reduce my quarterly payment amounts? And should I be making any changes to my LLC structure - like would S-Corp election help at all with this?
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Misterclamation Skyblue
•Yes, those deductions directly reduce your taxable income, which in turn reduces your quarterly payment amounts. Keep meticulous records of all business expenses - every dollar you can legitimately deduct saves you about 37 cents in taxes. S-Corp election could definitely help once your business income reaches a certain level (usually around $80-100K). With an S-Corp, you'd pay yourself a "reasonable salary" that's subject to FICA taxes, but you can take the rest as distributions that avoid those extra payroll taxes. However, there are additional costs and compliance requirements with an S-Corp, so it's not always worth it for everyone. At your current income level, it might be worth exploring for 2025, especially if your growth continues.
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Peyton Clarke
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Vince Eh
•Does it actually work with quarterly estimates? My accountant just gives me a number with almost no explanation. Also worried about deducting too much and getting audited.
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Sophia Gabriel
•How does this compare to just using QuickBooks? I'm tracking everything there but still paying a ton in taxes.
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Peyton Clarke
•It absolutely works with quarterly estimates because it helps you properly categorize expenses throughout the year. When you have better visibility into your true taxable income, your estimates become more accurate. The detailed explanations it provides gives you confidence about what's legitimately deductible - no more guessing. QuickBooks is great for tracking, but it doesn't actively help you identify deduction opportunities or explain tax strategies. It's more about recording what happened rather than optimizing your tax situation. I use both - QuickBooks for day-to-day tracking, and taxr.ai for tax planning and finding deductions QuickBooks doesn't know are available to me.
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Sophia Gabriel
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Tobias Lancaster
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Ezra Beard
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Statiia Aarssizan
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Statiia Aarssizan
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Reginald Blackwell
You should absolutely look into setting up a Solo 401k RIGHT NOW. For self-employed people, it's probably the most powerful tax-saving tool available. For 2024, you can contribute up to $23,000 as an employee contribution, PLUS you can make employer contributions up to 25% of your compensation. The total max is $69,000 for 2024. This directly reduces your taxable income dollar-for-dollar. At your 37% effective tax rate, that could mean significant savings.
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Gabriel Ruiz
•Would this actually help with my quarterly payments due now? Or is this more of a long-term strategy? I'm struggling with having enough cash on hand to make these payments.
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Reginald Blackwell
•It can absolutely help with your current quarterly payments. When you make contributions to your Solo 401k, you can factor those deductions into your estimated tax calculations immediately. For example, if you know you're going to contribute $20,000 to your Solo 401k this year, you can reduce your projected taxable income by that amount when calculating your quarterly payments. At your tax rate, that's potentially saving you around $7,400 in taxes this year. You don't have to wait until the end of the year to realize these benefits - you can adjust your quarterly payment calculations as you make the contributions.
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Aria Khan
Something else no one has mentioned - track EVERYTHING for your home office deduction. I mean: - Exact square footage of your workspace - Portion of utilities - Internet - Cell phone - Office supplies - Computer equipment - Furniture I went from paying 40% in taxes my first self-employed year to about a normal 28% once I tracked everything properly. Total game changer.
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Everett Tutum
•Just be careful with home office deduction. It has to be a space used EXCLUSIVELY for business, not your kitchen table where you sometimes work. IRS is super strict about this. My buddy got audited because of this exact issue.
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Jean Claude
The 37% rate your accountant quoted is unfortunately accurate for your income level. As a new business owner making $61K in Q1, you're looking at roughly 24% federal income tax, plus 15.3% self-employment tax (both sides of Social Security/Medicare), plus state taxes if applicable. Here's what you can do RIGHT NOW to reduce your tax burden: **Immediate Deductions:** - Set up a dedicated home office space (even a corner of a room counts if used exclusively for business) - Track all business mileage from day one - Deduct any equipment, software, or supplies you've purchased - Business meals are 50% deductible - Professional development/training costs **Retirement Contributions:** Consider opening a SEP-IRA or Solo 401(k) ASAP. You can contribute up to 25% of your net self-employment earnings, which directly reduces your taxable income. This could significantly lower your quarterly payments. **Cash Flow Strategy:** Since you mentioned not having enough saved for the full 37%, you might qualify for the "safe harbor" rule - pay 100% of last year's total tax liability divided into quarterly payments (110% if your prior year AGI was over $150K). This prevents underpayment penalties while you adjust to self-employment. Find a tax professional who specializes in small business planning, not just compliance. They should be proactively discussing these strategies with you, not just telling you what you owe.
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