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Dyllan Nantx

Filing 1040-NR as Non-U.S. Person with LLC Partnership Loss - Schedule K-1 Question

I'm a foreign national (NOT a U.S. Entity, U.S. Citizen, or U.S. person under U.S tax law) and I failed the Substantial Presence Test. I'm involved as a partner in an LLC business that unfortunately lost money during the 2024 fiscal year. I've received a Schedule K-1 from the business. I'm confused about my filing requirements. From what I understand, the general guidance is that non-U.S. persons only need to submit Form 1040-NR if they have income AND were engaged in U.S. business activities. Is this accurate? My specific situation is that I have no income to report, only business expenses/losses, but I was actively engaged in U.S. business activity through this LLC partnership. Does this mean I still need to file Form 1040-NR despite having no U.S. income to report? Thanks in advance for any clarification on this confusing situation!

Based on your situation, you DO need to file Form 1040-NR. The key factor isn't whether you had income or losses, but rather that you were "engaged in a trade or business in the United States" through your LLC partnership interest. When you receive a Schedule K-1 as a foreign partner in a U.S. LLC, you're considered to be engaged in U.S. business activity through the partnership, regardless of whether the business was profitable. The partnership loss reported on your K-1 is considered "effectively connected income" (even though it's negative), which triggers a filing requirement. Filing is actually beneficial in your case because you can document these losses, which might be carried forward to offset future profits from the business. If you don't file, you could lose the ability to claim these losses against future income.

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Dyllan Nantx

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Thanks for the clarification! So just to make sure I understand correctly - even though I have no actual income to report (just losses), I still need to file the 1040-NR because I was engaged in U.S. business through the LLC partnership? Also, do you know if there are any specific sections or attachments I need to include with my 1040-NR to properly document these partnership losses from the K-1?

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Yes, that's exactly right. Your filing requirement is triggered by your engagement in U.S. business through the partnership, not by whether you had positive income. You'll need to attach a copy of your Schedule K-1 to your 1040-NR. The partnership losses will be reported on Schedule E (Supplemental Income and Loss), which you'll attach to your 1040-NR. Make sure to complete Part II of Schedule E for reporting partnership income/losses. The total from Schedule E will then flow to Schedule 1 of your 1040-NR.

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Avery Davis

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Non-resident tax filer here! One important thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you have an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) before you file your 1040-NR. As a non-U.S. person, you won't have a Social Security Number, and you'll need the ITIN to file. You can apply for an ITIN using Form W-7 when you submit your tax return. It's a bit of a catch-22 though - you need to file your return to get the ITIN, but you need an ITIN to file the return. The solution is to submit both together.

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Dyllan Nantx

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Thanks for bringing this up! I actually already have an ITIN from some previous work I did in the US years ago. Do you know if there's any way to verify if it's still active before I file? Or does an ITIN stay valid permanently once you have one?

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Avery Davis

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If you haven't used your ITIN on a tax return for 3 consecutive years, it may have expired. ITINs issued before 2013 have generally been phased out in batches based on the middle digits of the number. You can call the IRS ITIN unit directly at 1-800-908-9982 to check if your ITIN is still active. If it has expired, you'll need to renew it using Form W-7 with proper documentation. Unlike SSNs, ITINs do need to be renewed periodically if not used. If your ITIN is still valid though, you're all set to use it on your 1040-NR!

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Collins Angel

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One quick warning based on personal experience - make sure your LLC partnership is correctly reporting your status as a foreign partner on the K-1! There's a specific box they need to check, and they should be completing the foreign partner information in Box 20. Many U.S. accountants don't deal with foreign partners often and mess this up. If your K-1 doesn't properly identify you as a foreign partner, you might face issues with the IRS later when they try to reconcile your 1040-NR with partnership reporting.

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Marcelle Drum

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Is there a specific form or tax treatment the partnership needs to handle for foreign partners? Our partnership accountant seems clueless about having non-US partners and I want to make sure they're doing everything correctly on their end.

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Chloe Davis

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Yes, the partnership needs to handle several specific requirements for foreign partners. They should be filing Form 8805 to report withholding on effectively connected income allocated to foreign partners, and they need to issue you Form 8813 showing any tax withheld on your behalf. On your K-1, they should check the "Foreign partner" box and complete Box 20 with foreign partner-specific allocations and any treaty benefits. The partnership also needs to withhold tax under Section 1446 on your share of effectively connected income (even if it's a loss in your case, they need to track this properly for future years). I'd recommend giving your partnership accountant IRS Publication 541 (Partnerships) and specifically pointing them to the sections on foreign partners. If they're still confused, they might need to consult with a tax professional who has experience with international partnership taxation.

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Great question! I went through this exact situation last year as a non-US person with partnership losses. You absolutely need to file Form 1040-NR even with no income - the key is that you were "engaged in a trade or business in the US" through your LLC partnership. A few important points from my experience: 1. File even with losses - you can carry these forward to offset future partnership income 2. Make sure your LLC properly marked you as a foreign partner on the K-1 (Box 20 should have foreign partner allocations) 3. You'll report the K-1 losses on Schedule E, which attaches to your 1040-NR 4. If you don't have an ITIN yet, you can apply for one when you file using Form W-7 The filing requirement isn't about having income - it's about being engaged in US business activity. Since you received a K-1 as an active partner, you meet this threshold. Don't skip filing or you could lose the ability to use these losses against future profits!

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm in a similar situation as the original poster. One question - you mentioned that losses can be carried forward to offset future partnership income. Do you know if there are any limitations on how long these losses can be carried forward, or any special rules that apply specifically to foreign partners? Also, when you filed your 1040-NR with the partnership losses, did you need to include any additional documentation beyond the K-1 and Schedule E?

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