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Jibriel Kohn

Do SIMPLE IRA contributions count towards the max IRA contribution limit for tax purposes?

So I'm trying to figure out my retirement contribution situation for next year and getting a bit confused about the different limits. I looked up the IRS website and found: SIMPLE IRA Contribution Limits The amount an employee contributes from their salary to a SIMPLE IRA cannot exceed $19,000 in 2025 When I'm doing my own taxes, do I need to count any of my SIMPLE IRA contributions as part of my traditional IRA limit? Like, are these separate buckets, or does contributing to my SIMPLE IRA reduce how much I can put in my personal traditional IRA? The traditional IRA limit is $7,500 for 2025, right? I'm assuming they're completely separate limits but want to make sure before I mess something up.

You're on the right track! SIMPLE IRAs and traditional/Roth IRAs have completely separate contribution limits. The SIMPLE IRA is an employer-sponsored plan with its own limit ($19,000 for 2025), while the traditional/Roth IRA is a personal retirement account with a different limit ($7,500 for 2025 if you're under 50). So you can max out both if you want - contributing the full $19,000 to your SIMPLE IRA doesn't reduce how much you can put in your personal IRA at all. They're entirely separate buckets for tax purposes. Just keep in mind that your ability to deduct traditional IRA contributions might be limited based on your income and participation in the SIMPLE IRA plan, since that's considered an employer plan.

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Wait, so even though I can contribute to both, are you saying I might not get the tax deduction for the traditional IRA if I'm also in a SIMPLE IRA? What income limits apply? And would a Roth IRA be a better option in that case?

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You're right to ask about the deduction limitations. If you participate in a workplace retirement plan like a SIMPLE IRA, your traditional IRA deduction begins to phase out at a modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) of $77,000 for single filers and $123,000 for married filing jointly in 2025. Once your income exceeds $87,000 (single) or $143,000 (married), you can't deduct traditional IRA contributions at all. A Roth IRA could indeed be better in this case, as long as your income doesn't exceed the Roth contribution limits. For 2025, Roth contributions begin phasing out at $146,000 for single filers and $230,000 for married filing jointly. The contribution fully phases out at $161,000 and $240,000 respectively.

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Charlie Yang

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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - if you're self-employed and set up the SIMPLE IRA yourself (as both employer and employee), you can actually contribute even more! As the employer, you can make either a 2% fixed contribution or a 3% matching contribution on top of your employee contribution. So theoretically for 2025, you could put in $19,000 as the employee contribution, then an additional amount as the employer contribution (up to the lesser of $69,000 or 25% of your compensation).

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Grace Patel

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I thought the employer contribution limit was much lower for SIMPLE IRAs compared to SEP IRAs or Solo 401ks? Isn't there a cap on how much the employer can contribute to a SIMPLE?

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Charlie Yang

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You're right to question this. I misspoke about the limits. For SIMPLE IRAs, the employer contribution is indeed much more limited than with SEP IRAs or Solo 401(k)s. As an employer with a SIMPLE IRA, you're required to either match employee contributions dollar-for-dollar up to 3% of compensation (which can be reduced to 1% in 2 out of 5 years) OR make a 2% nonelective contribution for all eligible employees. These are much lower than the potential employer contributions for SEP IRAs or Solo 401(k)s. Thanks for the correction!

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ApolloJackson

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Has anyone used TurboTax for figuring this out? I'm wondering if it automatically calculates the limits or if I need to manually keep track of my SIMPLE IRA contributions when entering my traditional IRA info.

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TurboTax actually handles this pretty well. When you enter your W-2 info, it asks about retirement plans and automatically factors your SIMPLE IRA participation into the calculations. Then when you get to the IRA contribution section, it tells you whether your traditional IRA contributions are fully deductible, partially deductible, or non-deductible based on your income and participation in the SIMPLE IRA.

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Great question! Yes, you're absolutely correct that SIMPLE IRA and traditional IRA contribution limits are completely separate. You can contribute the full $19,000 to your SIMPLE IRA and still contribute up to $7,500 to a traditional or Roth IRA for 2025 (assuming you're under 50). However, there's an important caveat: since you participate in a SIMPLE IRA (which is considered a workplace retirement plan), your ability to deduct traditional IRA contributions may be limited based on your income. For 2025, if you're single, the deduction phases out between $77,000-$87,000 of modified adjusted gross income. For married filing jointly, it's $123,000-$143,000. If your income is above these thresholds, you might want to consider a Roth IRA instead, which has higher income limits and provides tax-free growth. Just make sure to check the Roth income limits too - they phase out starting at $146,000 for single filers in 2025.

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The Boss

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This is really helpful! I'm new to retirement planning and was totally confused about how all these different account types interact. So just to make sure I understand correctly - if I'm making $85,000 and have a SIMPLE IRA at work, I could still put money into a traditional IRA but wouldn't get any tax deduction for it since I'm above the $87,000 limit? In that case, would it make more sense to just go with a Roth IRA since I'm well under the $146,000 phase-out threshold?

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