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Yara Nassar

Do S-corp tax advantages really matter for larger businesses?

I'm trying to wrap my head around S-corporation benefits for bigger businesses. From what I understand, since Social Security tax is capped at around $168,600 for 2024, the main advantage of avoiding self-employment tax would only apply if you can justify officer compensation below that threshold. The problem I'm running into with my growing business is that it seems almost impossible to establish "reasonable compensation" that falls below the SS cap for officers in our size range. My CPA isn't making a strong case for why we should maintain S-corp status as we continue to scale. Are there still meaningful S-corp tax advantages for businesses at our level? Or do these benefits basically disappear once your business reaches a certain size? I feel like I might be overlooking something important here, but can't figure out what it is.

The S-corp advantage question is one I see a lot from growing businesses. You're right that the self-employment tax savings (the 15.3% FICA tax savings on distributions) becomes less significant once reasonable compensation approaches or exceeds the Social Security wage base. However, there are other factors to consider beyond just the SE tax savings. S-corps still offer pass-through taxation, avoiding the potential double taxation of C-corporations. This means business profits still flow to your personal return without corporate tax. Also, S-corps can offer more flexible loss utilization for owners compared to C-corps. That said, as companies get larger, many eventually convert to C-corps for other reasons - easier access to capital, multiple classes of stock, more flexible ownership structures, and potentially lower corporate tax rates on retained earnings if you're reinvesting heavily in the business.

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This is super helpful, thanks! What about QBI deduction? I heard somewhere that S-corps can qualify for that 20% pass-through deduction thing. Does that benefit disappear for bigger companies too?

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The Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction is definitely an important consideration I should have mentioned. S-corps can qualify for the 20% QBI deduction, which is a significant tax benefit. For higher-income businesses, QBI deductions do phase out for certain service-based businesses once taxable income exceeds thresholds (around $364,200 for married filing jointly in 2024). However, non-service businesses can still qualify regardless of income level, though wage and capital limitations come into play. This is where proper tax planning with your specific business details becomes crucial.

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Amina Toure

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Does it actually give you specific recommendations or just general tax info? I've tried other "analysis" tools that basically just spit out generic advice.

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CosmicCaptain

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People keep talking about the SE tax advantage, but nobody's mentioning state taxes! In some states, S-corps are taxed differently than C-corps at the state level too. We're in California and the difference is pretty substantial. Might be worth looking into based on your state.

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Malik Johnson

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Good point! In NY we have that stupid S-corp franchise tax that adds up. What's the California situation like?

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CosmicCaptain

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In California, S-corporations pay a 1.5% tax on net income with a minimum tax of $800, while C-corporations pay a flat 8.84% tax rate. For larger businesses with significant profits, this difference can be substantial - though you need to factor in the additional personal income tax on passed-through S-corp profits. The analysis really depends on how much profit you're retaining in the business versus distributing to shareholders. In my experience, the math favors S-corps for businesses with high distribution rates but can swing toward C-corps when reinvesting heavily.

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Has anyone considered the health insurance implications? I switched from S to C last year and suddenly my health insurance premiums became fully deductible business expenses rather than that weird self-employed health insurance deduction. Made a surprising difference.

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Ravi Sharma

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Our accountant mentioned this too! Also something about being able to establish a medical reimbursement plan as a C-corp that you cant do with an S? Not 100% on the details tho.

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