Confused about qualifying for FEIE - bona fide residence vs physical presence test after moving abroad mid-year
I moved from the US to the Netherlands in March 2022 and I'm really confused about my foreign earned income exclusion options. I was working in the US during January and February of 2022, then relocated to the Netherlands on March 3rd with a proper work/residence permit. I've got an apartment here and everything. I initially thought I could use the bona fide residence test, but then I read you need to be abroad for an entire tax year, which I wasn't since I spent Jan/Feb in the States. Then when I tried looking at the physical presence test option in my tax software, it asked if I was abroad during this period - technically I was out of the Netherlands a few times since I took some vacations and visited the US twice last year. I'm completely lost on which test I should use or if I even qualify for either one. Does anyone know which option would work better for my situation? I don't want to mess this up and have problems with the IRS later.
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Amara Nwosu
You're right to be careful here. Let me clear up the confusion about these two tests. For the bona fide residence test, you need to establish that you're a resident of a foreign country for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year (Jan 1-Dec 31). Since you moved in March 2022, you wouldn't qualify for bona fide residence for the 2022 tax year. However, you could qualify for 2023 if you remained a resident of the Netherlands throughout all of 2023. For the physical presence test, you need to be physically present in foreign countries for at least 330 full days during a 12-month period. This period doesn't have to align with the calendar year. So you could potentially use any 12-month period that started with your move (like March 3, 2022 to March 2, 2023). Brief trips back to the US would count against your 330 days, but vacations to other foreign countries still count as days outside the US. The physical presence test is likely your better option for the first partial year abroad.
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AstroExplorer
•So for the physical presence test, does it matter which countries you visit as long as it's not the US? Like if OP took a vacation to France from the Netherlands, would those days still count toward the 330?
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Amara Nwosu
•Yes, that's exactly right. For the physical presence test, it only matters that you're physically outside the US. Time spent in any foreign country (or countries) counts toward your 330 days. So vacation days in France, Spain, Japan, or anywhere else outside the US would still count toward meeting that requirement. The only days that don't count are days physically present in the US or its territories, and there are some specific travel day rules around when you're in transit that you should look into if you're cutting it close to the 330-day requirement.
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Giovanni Moretti
After struggling with the same exact issue (moved to Germany in April 2022), I found a tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that was super helpful for figuring this out. I uploaded my passport stamps and travel docs, and it showed me exactly which test I qualified for and calculated my qualifying days automatically. It also helped determine which portion of my income qualified for exclusion since I had partial year foreign income. Saved me from making a $4,200 mistake because I was calculating my exclusion amount wrong before using it!
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Fatima Al-Farsi
•How does this actually work? Do you just take pictures of your passport or flight itineraries? I'm in a similar situation (moved to Singapore last year) and have been keeping a spreadsheet of my travel days but I'm not 100% confident it's accurate.
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Dylan Cooper
•I'm skeptical about tools like this. Wouldn't a qualified tax professional be better than some app? How does it actually determine your residency status when there are so many factors beyond just physical presence?
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Giovanni Moretti
•You can upload photos of passport stamps, flight itineraries, bank statements showing foreign transactions, basically any document that helps establish your location. It uses some kind of AI to extract the dates and locations, then organizes everything into a timeline. For me it was easier than the spreadsheet method because it caught some weekend trips I had forgotten to log. As for using a qualified tax professional - absolutely that's an option too. I actually did both - used the tool to organize my information first, then took the results to my accountant. The difference was my accountant charged me hourly to manually count all my days, so having it organized saved me money. The tool doesn't replace professional advice, it just makes the physical presence calculation much easier.
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Dylan Cooper
I was totally skeptical about taxr.ai at first but decided to try it after my accountant quoted me $900 to sort through my travel history. Wow - it actually worked incredibly well. I uploaded my Google timeline data, Airbnb history, and a few pictures of passport stamps and it put together a complete timeline showing I qualified for the physical presence test even though I thought I might have been a few days short. The report it generated showed exactly which days counted and which didn't. My accountant was impressed enough that he actually asked me for the link to share with his other expat clients. Definitely worth checking out if you're dealing with this FEIE headache.
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Sofia Perez
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Dmitry Smirnov
•Wait how is this even possible? I thought the IRS phone lines were basically impossible to get through on. Does it actually work for international callers too?
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ElectricDreamer
•This sounds like a scam. I don't understand how some third-party service could magically get you to the front of the IRS phone queue when everyone else has to wait. Do they have some special arrangement with the IRS or something?
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Sofia Perez
•It works by constantly calling and navigating the IRS phone tree for you. Instead of you personally having to call, wait on hold, get disconnected, and repeat, their system does this automatically until it gets through, then calls you when an agent is ready. Yes, it works for international callers too. They provide a US number that you can call from anywhere, so you can be connected with the IRS agent from abroad. I used it from the Netherlands myself. This isn't a special arrangement with the IRS or cutting any lines - they're just automating the painful process of repeatedly calling until you get through. It's like having someone sit at a phone for hours redialing for you.
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ElectricDreamer
I was totally wrong about Claimyr being a scam. After waiting on hold with the IRS for 3+ hours across multiple days, I gave in and tried it. Within 45 minutes, I was talking to an actual human at the IRS who answered all my FEIE questions. The agent confirmed I should use the physical presence test for my first partial year abroad (moved to Thailand in May 2022) and helped me understand how to properly document my qualifying period. She even explained how I could structure my future travel to maintain eligibility while still visiting home occasionally. The service literally saved me days of frustration and probably prevented me from making an expensive mistake on my return. Definitely worth it.
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Ava Johnson
Make sure you're keeping really good records of your travel! I got audited because I claimed FEIE and didn't have enough documentation to prove my physical presence days. The IRS wanted to see: - Passport stamps - Flight itineraries - Bank records showing transactions in your foreign country - Rental/utility payments - Employment records I ended up having to pay back taxes plus penalties because I was missing about 10 days of proof and fell below the 330 threshold.
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Liam O'Donnell
•This is super helpful and also terrifying! How detailed do the bank records need to be? I have some days where I didn't make any purchases or transactions. Do they expect daily proof for all 330 days?
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Ava Johnson
•They don't necessarily expect daily proof for all 330 days, but they do want to see enough evidence to establish a pattern of foreign residence. For gaps where you don't have bank transactions, other evidence like phone records, public transportation receipts, or even grocery store loyalty card usage can help. The IRS agent who handled my audit said they look for "reasonable coverage" rather than day-by-day documentation. So if you have evidence from every week or so throughout the year, that's generally sufficient. But having multiple types of evidence strengthens your case significantly. The biggest problems happen when you have multi-week gaps with no documentation at all.
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Miguel Diaz
One important thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you use the physical presence test, you need to file Form 2555 with your tax return. Make sure you fill out Part III (Physical Presence Test) completely, not Part II (Bona Fide Residence Test). Also, remember that the FEIE only applies to earned income (salary, wages, self-employment), not investment income. And the max exclusion for 2022 was $112,000, but it's prorated if your qualifying period doesn't cover the whole year.
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Zainab Ahmed
•Does rental income from US property count as earned income for the FEIE? I have a house I'm renting out back in the states while I'm living abroad.
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Gianni Serpent
•No, rental income from US property would not qualify for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion. Rental income is considered passive income, not earned income, so it doesn't meet the requirements for FEIE regardless of where you're living when you receive it. You'll still need to report that rental income on your US tax return and pay taxes on it normally. The FEIE only applies to compensation for personal services - things like salary, wages, professional fees, or business income from active participation in a trade or business.
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Paolo Ricci
For your 2022 situation, the physical presence test is definitely your best option since you moved abroad mid-year. You'll need to count 330 full days in any 12-month period - I'd suggest using March 3, 2022 to March 2, 2023 as your qualifying period. A few key things to watch out for: travel days to/from the US don't count as full days abroad (you need to be outside the US for the entire 24-hour period), but partial days at the beginning/end of your qualifying period can count if you were already abroad or stayed abroad. Since you mentioned taking vacations and visiting the US twice, make sure to carefully count those US days. Even if you went over the 35-day limit for US presence, you can still qualify as long as you have 330 full days outside the US within your chosen 12-month period. For 2022, your exclusion will be prorated based on how many days of your qualifying period fall within the tax year. So if your qualifying period is March 3, 2022 - March 2, 2023, you'd get about 304 days worth of the $112,000 exclusion for 2022 (roughly $93,400 max exclusion). Document everything well - keep all travel records, passport stamps, and proof of your Netherlands residence!
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Raúl Mora
•This is exactly what I needed to hear! The prorated calculation makes so much sense now - I was getting confused trying to figure out if I could claim the full $112,000 or not. Your March 3, 2022 to March 2, 2023 suggestion is perfect since that's exactly when I moved. Quick question about the travel days - when you say travel days to/from the US don't count, does that mean if I flew out of Amsterdam on a Friday morning and landed in New York Friday evening, that Friday wouldn't count toward my 330 days? Even though I was physically outside the US for part of that day?
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