Can I switch from Physical Presence to Bona Fide Residence Test for Foreign Earned Income Exclusion?
I've been using the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) based on the physical presence test for the past 5 years, but I'm thinking about switching to the Bona Fide Residence Test. My main reason is I need more flexibility to visit the US for work and family without losing my exclusion benefits. I've lived in my current country since 2012 and got my permanent resident visa in July 2016. I own property there (technically a 50-year lease of a house and lot that's in my name on the title, worth about $67K now). Here's what I'd put on Form 2555 for the Bona Fide Residence section: - Date bona fide residence began: 07/01/2016 - Living quarters: Purchased house (50-year leasehold) - Family living abroad: Yes, my mother visited for about 3 months total - Statement to foreign authorities that I'm not a resident: No, never had to make such a statement - Required to pay income tax in foreign country: No (they don't tax income from foreign sources) - Employment contract terms: No contract, salary-based employment - Visa type: Special Resident Retirement Visa (Permanent Resident) - Visa limitations on stay/employment: None - Home maintained in the US: No (just a PO box and my sister's address) Should I switch to claiming Bona Fide Residence or stick with the physical presence test and keep limiting my time in the US? I'm worried about triggering an audit if I make this change.
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Morita Montoya
Based on what you've shared, you appear to have a very strong case for the Bona Fide Residence Test. The key factors working in your favor are: 1. You've maintained continuous residence since 2012, with official residence status since 2016 2. You have permanent resident status via your retirement visa 3. You own (lease) property in your name 4. You haven't declared non-residence to local authorities 5. Your visa has no limitations on your stay The Bona Fide Residence Test is actually designed for situations exactly like yours - people who have established genuine, long-term residence in another country. The Physical Presence Test is more commonly used by those with temporary assignments or digital nomads who move frequently. The IRS recognizes that bona fide residents will occasionally need to return to the US for various reasons. As long as your trips are temporary and you maintain your foreign residence, you should be fine. Just make sure to document the temporary nature of your US visits.
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Kingston Bellamy
•Thanks for the detailed reply! This is helpful. I'm curious though - does it matter that I don't pay income tax in my resident country? I've heard that's a red flag for the IRS. Also, if I switch to Bona Fide from Physical Presence, will the IRS be more likely to scrutinize my previous years' returns where I used the Physical Presence test?
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Morita Montoya
•Not paying income tax in your foreign country isn't necessarily a red flag. Many countries have tax systems that don't tax foreign-source income or have special provisions for retirees and long-term residents. The IRS understands these variations in tax systems around the world. Switching from Physical Presence to Bona Fide Residence shouldn't trigger a review of previous years. The IRS recognizes that people's situations evolve, and it's completely legitimate to qualify under different tests at different times. Just make sure you're maintaining good documentation of your residence status, property ownership, and the temporary nature of your US visits.
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Joy Olmedo
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Isaiah Cross
•How exactly does this tool work? Does it just give general advice or does it actually look at your specific information? I'm in a similar situation (living in Singapore for 4 years) but always worried about getting audited if I switch to the Bona Fide test.
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Kiara Greene
•Sounds interesting but I'm a bit skeptical. I've been using physical presence test for my FEIE claims while living in Thailand and have had no issues. Did the tool actually help with anything the IRS questioned or was it just peace of mind? My accountant says switching tests raises red flags.
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Joy Olmedo
•The tool works by analyzing your specific residence information, travel history, and ties to both countries. You upload key documents and answer targeted questions, then it runs your situation through its analysis engine. It's much more thorough than general advice since it's tailored to your unique circumstances. I know exactly how you feel about audit concerns. What made the difference for me was getting the detailed documentation guidance. My previous accountant just checked boxes, but didn't help me understand how to properly document my residence status and travel patterns. The tool identified specific supporting evidence I should maintain that I hadn't even thought about.
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Kiara Greene
Just wanted to follow up on my previous comment. I actually tried out that taxr.ai tool mentioned above after doing some research. I was really skeptical at first since I'd heard switching from Physical Presence to Bona Fide Residence would trigger an audit, but the analysis they provided showed my situation was actually stronger under the Bona Fide test. The tool identified several factors I hadn't considered (like my local bank accounts, utility bills in my name, and my Thai driver's license) that strongly supported my bona fide resident status. It also helped me understand how to properly document my trips back to the US to show they were temporary visits rather than a return to US residence. I just filed my 2024 taxes using the Bona Fide Residence Test and had zero issues. Actually felt more confident than in previous years!
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Evelyn Kelly
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Paloma Clark
•How does this Claimyr thing actually work? Is it legit? I've spent literally days trying to get through to the IRS international tax line and always get disconnected or told the wait is 2+ hours.
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Heather Tyson
•This sounds too good to be true. I've been trying to reach the IRS for months about my FEIE questions. Are you sure this isn't just some service that puts you in the same queue everyone else is in? I can't imagine how they'd get priority access to IRS agents.
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Evelyn Kelly
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Heather Tyson
Following up on my skeptical comment - I actually tried Claimyr yesterday after getting nowhere for weeks trying to reach someone at the IRS about my FEIE questions. I was 100% convinced it wouldn't work or would be some kind of scam. I was shocked when my phone rang about an hour later and I was connected directly to an IRS agent! No hold music, no automated system - just straight to a real person who actually knew about international tax issues. The agent walked me through the Bona Fide Residence requirements and confirmed that, like the original poster, my situation (permanent residence visa in Malaysia, property ownership, local bank accounts) strongly qualified me for the test. She even explained exactly how to document my US visits to show they're temporary and not a return to US residence. This literally saved me dozens of hours of frustration and gave me confidence to file correctly. I can't believe I didn't know about this service sooner.
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Raul Neal
I've been using the Bona Fide Residence test for 7 years now (expat in Costa Rica) and it sounds like you definitely qualify. One thing to consider - if you travel to the US frequently, keep a travel journal documenting the purpose of each trip. My accountant advised this and it came in handy when I got a letter asking for more info (not a full audit) a few years back. Also, make sure you're documenting your community ties in your foreign country. Things like gym memberships, church attendance, community group participation, etc. These seemingly minor things actually help establish the "bona fide" nature of your residence.
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Jenna Sloan
•What exactly should we document about trips back to the US? I'm going back frequently (every 2 months) for eldercare of my parents but still maintain my primary home in Panama. Would this disqualify me from Bona Fide Residence?
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Raul Neal
•For each US trip, I document: dates of travel, specific purpose (business meetings, family visits, medical appointments), and evidence that I intended to return to my foreign residence (return tickets, ongoing bills/commitments in Costa Rica, etc.). Frequent trips for eldercare wouldn't disqualify you from the Bona Fide Residence test. The key is that these visits are temporary in nature and that your life is clearly centered in Panama. The IRS understands that expats need to return to the US for family responsibilities. Just keep documenting that Panama remains your primary home, where your property, belongings, and community connections are maintained. Your travel pattern, even if frequent, is clearly for a specific purpose and not an indication you're moving back.
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Christian Burns
Be careful with question 11 on Form 2555! It asks if you submitted a statement to foreign authorities saying you're NOT a resident. You answered no, which is correct, but make sure you understand why this matters. The IRS is checking if you're claiming non-resident status abroad while simultaneously claiming resident status for FEIE. My friend got flagged because he had a "non-resident" tax certification in Portugal while claiming bona fide residence to the IRS. Ended up losing his FEIE and owing back taxes plus penalties. Your permanent resident visa and property ownership are strong factors in your favor though!
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Sasha Reese
•This is a really important point. I had a similar issue with Germany's Anmeldung (residence registration) that temporarily contradicted my FEIE claim. Do you know if having a tax residence certificate in one country but claiming FEIE for another country is problematic? I split time between two foreign countries.
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Christian Burns
•That's a complex situation with splitting time between two foreign countries. Generally, the FEIE is designed for residence in a single foreign country. If you have official tax residence certificates for multiple countries, it could potentially create issues with your FEIE claim. The key is which country you consider your true "tax home" and where your economic and personal ties are strongest. Documentation becomes extremely important in your case - you'd need to clearly show which country is your primary residence versus which one is just a place you visit regularly. The IRS might question why you need formal tax residency in two places. I'd definitely consult with an international tax specialist for your specific situation.
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Muhammad Hobbs
Your situation sounds like a textbook case for Bona Fide Residence. I've been using it for 9 years in Chile despite traveling to the US for 2-3 months each year. One tip nobody mentioned: keep digital copies of EVERYTHING. When I got questioned (not audited, just a letter requesting more info), I uploaded digital copies of my: - Lease agreement - Permanent resident card - Utility bills (showing consistent usage) - Local bank statements - Community involvement (gym membership, church, etc) - Travel records showing pattern of returns to Chile Never heard from them again! The documentation speaks for itself. From everything you wrote, you're in better shape than I was. Go for it!
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QuantumQuest
Based on your detailed description, you have an extremely strong case for the Bona Fide Residence Test. Your situation checks all the major boxes: continuous residence since 2012, permanent resident status since 2016, property ownership, and strong ties to your foreign country without maintaining a US home. The flexibility you're seeking is exactly what the Bona Fide Residence Test provides - it's designed for people like you who have genuinely established their life abroad but need occasional US travel flexibility. The Physical Presence Test is really better suited for shorter-term assignments or digital nomads. Don't worry about the audit concern. Switching tests is completely legitimate when your circumstances support it, and your documentation is solid. The IRS actually prefers the Bona Fide Residence Test for long-term expats because it demonstrates genuine commitment to foreign residence. One suggestion: start keeping a simple travel log documenting the purpose of your US visits (work, family, etc.) and evidence of your intent to return to your foreign home. This creates a clear paper trail showing the temporary nature of your US trips. Your permanent resident visa and property ownership are particularly strong evidence. You're making the right move!
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Ethan Wilson
Your situation is absolutely perfect for the Bona Fide Residence Test! I made this exact switch three years ago when I was living in the Philippines, and it was one of the best tax decisions I've made. The key factors that make your case so strong: - 13+ years of continuous residence (since 2012) - Official permanent resident status since 2016 - Property ownership (even leasehold counts) - No maintained US home - Clear intent to remain abroad long-term I was initially nervous about the switch too, but the IRS guidance is actually very clear that people can qualify under different tests at different times as their circumstances evolve. Your documentation looks solid. One practical tip: when you file Form 2555 using the Bona Fide Residence Test, make sure to attach a brief statement explaining your residence history and ties to your foreign country. I included a simple timeline showing my visa progression, property purchase, and community involvement. It helps paint the complete picture. The flexibility you'll gain is worth it - I can now visit the US for extended periods without constantly counting days or worrying about losing my exclusion. Your permanent resident visa gives you an even stronger position than most expats have. Go for it! Your case is as straightforward as they come for the Bona Fide Residence Test.
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Dananyl Lear
•This is really encouraging to hear from someone who's actually made this transition! The timeline statement you mentioned is a great idea - I hadn't thought about proactively explaining my residence history. Quick question: when you attached that statement, did you include it as a separate document or just add it to the Form 2555 itself? And did you mention specific community ties like local memberships, or just focus on the legal/financial aspects like visa status and property? I'm feeling much more confident about making this switch after reading everyone's experiences. It sounds like the IRS is actually quite reasonable about this as long as you have genuine ties to your foreign country, which I definitely do.
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