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Confused about long term collectible tax rates for gold and silver - need clarification!

Title: Confused about long term collectible tax rates for gold and silver - need clarification! 1 I'm getting totally different answers everywhere I look about how long term collectible tax rates work for precious metals like gold and silver. I know regular long term capital gains taxes fall into those 3 brackets (0%, 15%, and 20% depending on income), but what about collectibles? Is the 28% collectible tax rate completely separate from those normal capital gains categories, or does it just replace the 20% bracket when you're dealing with collectibles? Everyone keeps saying "up to 28%" which is super confusing - does that mean there are still different brackets for collectibles based on income? Or is it always a flat 28% no matter what? I've been investing in some gold and silver coins over the past few years and need to figure out what I'm looking at tax-wise if I sell some of them. If any CPAs or people who've actually dealt with this on their taxes could weigh in, that would be amazing. Thanks in advance!

Gemma Andrews

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7 The collectible tax rate is a bit confusing but I can help clarify. For long-term capital gains on collectibles (including precious metals like gold and silver), the maximum tax rate is indeed 28%. This doesn't simply replace the 20% bracket in regular capital gains. The phrase "up to 28%" means the rate depends on your ordinary income tax bracket. If your ordinary income tax rate is lower than 28%, you'll pay your ordinary income tax rate on collectible gains. If your ordinary income tax rate is higher than 28%, then your collectible gains are capped at 28%. So unlike regular long-term capital gains that have distinct 0%, 15%, and 20% brackets, collectibles don't follow the same structure. The rate you pay depends on your ordinary income tax bracket, but it won't exceed 28%.

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Gemma Andrews

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13 So if my income puts me in the 12% tax bracket, would I pay 12% on collectible gains? But if I'm in the 32% bracket, I'd pay 28%? Is that right?

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Gemma Andrews

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7 That's exactly right. If you're in the 12% ordinary income tax bracket, you'd pay 12% on your collectible gains. And if you're in a higher bracket like 32%, you'd pay the maximum collectible rate of 28% rather than your full ordinary income rate. This is why it's always stated as "up to 28%" - it depends on your specific tax situation, but has that maximum cap regardless of how high your normal income tax bracket might be.

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Gemma Andrews

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Gemma Andrews

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15 Does it work for other collectibles too? I have some vintage baseball cards I'm thinking about selling.

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Gemma Andrews

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18 I'm skeptical about tax tools...how does it actually determine what your correct rate should be? Does it just ask for your income or does it look at more factors?

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Gemma Andrews

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9 Yes, it absolutely works for other collectibles too! The tool handles all types of collectible investments including baseball cards, stamps, art, and precious metals. It just needs the details about when you acquired them and their value. For determining the correct rate, it's actually quite comprehensive. It asks for your overall income information and filing status, then calculates your ordinary income tax bracket. Based on that, it determines whether you'll pay your ordinary rate or be capped at the 28% collectible rate. It also factors in state taxes where applicable, which was super helpful.

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Gemma Andrews

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15 Just wanted to follow up! I tried https://taxr.ai for my baseball card collection and it was surprisingly straightforward. I uploaded some photos of my collection records and it identified that my 1952 Topps cards would be subject to collectible tax rates. Since I'm in the 22% tax bracket, that's what I'll pay on my gains (not 28% like I feared). The tool even showed me how to properly document the original purchase price since I inherited some cards from my grandfather. Definitely cleared up my confusion about the "up to 28%" language!

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Gemma Andrews

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Gemma Andrews

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21 Wait how does that even work? Does it actually get you through faster or just save you from having to listen to hold music?

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Gemma Andrews

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18 Sounds like a scam. There's no way to "skip the line" with the IRS. I bet they just put you on hold themselves and charge you for the privilege.

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Gemma Andrews

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11 It doesn't actually skip the line - they use automated technology to wait on hold for you. Their system calls the IRS and navigates through all those annoying menu prompts, then waits on hold (which can take hours). Once a real IRS agent picks up, you get a call back and are connected immediately. I found it totally worth it because I could go about my day instead of sitting on hold forever. When I finally got through to an IRS tax specialist, they confirmed exactly how the collectible tax rates work for my gold investments and made sure I was planning to report them correctly.

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Gemma Andrews

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18 I need to apologize for my skepticism earlier. After waiting on hold with the IRS for nearly 2 hours yesterday and getting disconnected, I tried Claimyr out of desperation. Within about 90 minutes, I got a call connecting me directly to an IRS agent! The agent explained everything about collectible tax rates that I needed to know. Turns out I was completely wrong about how they work! My silver coin collection will be taxed at my ordinary income rate of 24% (not automatically at 28%). She even emailed me some documentation explaining the regulations. Worth every penny not to waste another afternoon on hold.

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Gemma Andrews

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23 I just want to add a quick bit of additional info about collectibles tax that I learned the hard way. Don't forget that state taxes will also apply to your collectible gains in most states! I sold some gold last year and completely forgot to factor in my state's 5% capital gains tax on top of the federal collectible rate.

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Gemma Andrews

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4 Does that apply to all states? I thought some states don't tax investment income at all.

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Gemma Andrews

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23 You're absolutely right that it varies by state. Some states like Florida, Texas, and Nevada don't have state income taxes at all, so you'd only pay the federal rate on collectibles there. Other states like California and New York tax all capital gains (including collectibles) at your ordinary income tax rates. Where it gets really complicated is states that have special rules for capital gains - some give preferential rates to long-term holdings, while others treat all gains the same regardless of holding period.

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Gemma Andrews

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16 Has anyone used TurboTax to report collectible sales? Do they walk you through the collectible tax rates properly or is it confusing?

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Gemma Andrews

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5 I used TurboTax last year for some silver I sold. They definitely ask if what you're reporting is a collectible, but I found their explanation of the rates kind of vague. It worked out correctly in the end though.

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Jade Santiago

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I've been dealing with collectible taxes for a few years now and wanted to share what I've learned. The key thing to remember is that collectibles are taxed at your ordinary income tax rate, but with a maximum cap of 28%. So if you're in the 10% or 12% bracket, you'll pay that rate on your collectible gains. If you're in the 22% or 24% bracket, you'll pay those rates respectively. Only if you're in the 32%, 35%, or 37% brackets will you be "capped" at the 28% collectible rate. This is different from regular long-term capital gains which have those special 0%, 15%, and 20% rates. For collectibles like gold, silver, coins, art, etc., there's no special preferential rate - you pay your normal income tax rate up to that 28% ceiling. Hope this helps clarify the confusion! Make sure to keep good records of your purchase dates and prices for when you do sell.

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Sophia Carson

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This is exactly the clear explanation I needed! I've been overthinking this whole thing. So basically it's just my regular tax rate unless I'm in a really high bracket, then it gets capped at 28%. That makes so much more sense than trying to figure out if there were separate collectible brackets or something. Thank you for breaking it down so simply!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I've been holding some gold eagles and silver rounds for about 3 years now and was dreading trying to figure out the tax implications when I eventually sell. The explanation that it's just your ordinary income tax rate (capped at 28%) makes so much more sense than all the confusing information I found online. I'm in the 22% bracket, so I'll pay 22% on any gains - not some mysterious separate collectible rate structure. One follow-up question though - does the holding period still need to be over a year to qualify for these rates? Or do collectibles follow different rules for what constitutes "long-term" vs "short-term" gains?

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Heather Tyson

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Great question about the holding period! Yes, you still need to hold collectibles for more than one year to qualify for the long-term collectible tax rates we've been discussing. If you sell within a year, it's treated as short-term capital gains and taxed at your ordinary income tax rates (which could be higher than 28% if you're in a high bracket). So your gold eagles and silver rounds that you've held for 3 years will definitely qualify for long-term treatment. The one-year rule is the same for collectibles as it is for stocks and other investments - it's just the tax rates that are different once you qualify for long-term status.

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Ava Thompson

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Thanks everyone for the detailed explanations! As someone who's been hesitant to invest in precious metals partly because of tax confusion, this thread has been a game-changer. I'm currently in the 24% tax bracket, so if I understand correctly, I'd pay 24% on any long-term gains from gold or silver investments - not automatically 28%. That's actually much more reasonable than I was expecting. One thing I'm still curious about - do different types of precious metal investments get treated differently? Like would gold ETFs be taxed the same as physical gold coins, or do they follow regular capital gains rules since they're technically securities? I've been considering both options but the tax treatment might influence which direction I go.

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Lola Perez

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Great question about ETFs vs physical metals! This is actually a really important distinction that trips up a lot of people. Gold and silver ETFs like GLD and SLV are typically structured as grantor trusts that hold physical metals, so they're still taxed as collectibles at your ordinary income rate (up to 28%) - same as physical coins. However, some precious metals ETFs that hold mining stocks or futures contracts would be taxed as regular securities with the standard 0%/15%/20% long-term capital gains rates. You'd need to check the specific ETF's structure and tax classification. Since you're in the 24% bracket, you'd pay 24% on gains from either physical gold/silver or most precious metals ETFs. The main advantage of ETFs is easier buying/selling and no storage concerns, while physical metals give you actual possession. From a tax perspective though, most precious metals ETFs won't give you any advantage over physical ownership.

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Liam O'Connor

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This has been such an educational thread! I'm new to precious metals investing and was completely intimidated by the tax implications before reading through everyone's explanations. Just to make sure I have this straight - I'm currently in the 12% tax bracket, so if I buy some gold coins now and sell them after holding for more than a year, I would pay 12% on any gains (not 28%). The 28% is only the maximum rate that applies to people in higher tax brackets. It's reassuring to know that the tax treatment isn't as complicated as I initially thought. I was avoiding precious metals investments because I assumed there was some complex separate tax structure, but it sounds like it's actually quite straightforward once you understand that it's just your regular income tax rate with a cap. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge - this community is incredibly helpful for navigating these confusing tax topics!

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You've got it exactly right! As someone who's been through this learning curve myself, I can confirm that being in the 12% bracket means you'll pay 12% on your collectible gains - not the full 28%. I made the same assumption when I first started looking into precious metals and almost missed out on some good investment opportunities because I thought the tax burden would be too high. Once I realized it was just my normal tax rate (with that 28% ceiling for high earners), it made the decision much easier. One small tip from my experience - make sure to keep really detailed records of your purchase dates and costs, especially if you're buying coins over time. It makes calculating your gains so much simpler when you eventually sell. Good luck with your precious metals journey!

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Zara Khan

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This discussion has been incredibly helpful! I've been holding some silver coins and a small amount of gold for about 18 months and was dreading tax season because I kept seeing conflicting information about collectible tax rates. Reading through everyone's explanations, I finally understand that since I'm in the 22% tax bracket, I'll pay 22% on any gains from my precious metals - not automatically 28% like I feared. The "up to 28%" language that kept confusing me now makes perfect sense. What I appreciate most about this thread is how everyone shared real experiences rather than just repeating generic tax advice. It's clear that many of us went through the same confusion about whether collectibles had their own separate bracket system or special rates. Knowing it's simply your ordinary income tax rate (capped at 28% for high earners) takes a lot of the mystery out of precious metals investing. For anyone else who was hesitant about investing in gold or silver due to tax concerns - this thread shows it's really not as complicated as it initially seems!

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Alice Pierce

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I completely agree - this thread has been a lifesaver! I've been putting off selling some of my precious metals collection because I was overwhelmed by all the conflicting tax information out there. Seeing everyone break down the actual rules in plain English has given me the confidence to move forward. What really struck me is how many of us made the same incorrect assumptions about collectible taxes. I was convinced there was some complex tiered system specifically for collectibles, when in reality it's much more straightforward than that. Your ordinary income tax rate with the 28% cap - that's it! I'm also in the 22% bracket, so it's reassuring to hear from someone in the same situation. Thanks for emphasizing the importance of real experiences over generic advice - that's exactly what made this discussion so valuable for newcomers like me who were genuinely confused about how these rules work.

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Adrian Hughes

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This entire thread has been a goldmine of information! I've been researching precious metals investing for months but kept getting stuck on the tax implications. Every source seemed to explain the collectible tax rates differently, and I was starting to think I'd need to hire a CPA just to understand the basics. What finally clicked for me reading through everyone's experiences is that the 28% rate isn't some automatic tax that applies to all collectibles - it's just the ceiling. Since I'm currently in the 24% bracket, I'd pay 24% on any long-term gains from gold or silver investments, not 28%. I really appreciate how this community breaks down complex tax topics with real-world examples. The distinction between ETFs and physical metals that someone mentioned earlier was particularly eye-opening. I had no idea that most precious metals ETFs are still taxed as collectibles rather than regular securities. One question I still have - does anyone know if there are any special reporting requirements for collectibles beyond the standard capital gains forms? I want to make sure I'm prepared for all aspects of the tax filing process when I eventually make some sales.

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LunarEclipse

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Great question about reporting requirements! From my experience, collectibles are generally reported on the same forms as other capital gains - typically Schedule D and Form 8949. However, you do need to make sure the collectible nature is properly indicated since the tax rates are different. Most tax software will ask you to specify if the asset is a collectible when you're entering the sale information. If you're filing manually, you'll want to make sure it's clear that these gains should be taxed at collectible rates rather than the standard long-term capital gains rates. The key is having good documentation of your purchase dates and costs, especially if you bought coins or metals at different times. I learned this the hard way when I had to reconstruct records for some purchases I made years ago! Keep receipts, bank statements, and any dealer invoices - it makes the whole process much smoother when tax time comes around.

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StarStrider

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This thread has been absolutely invaluable! I've been sitting on some precious metals for over two years but was terrified to sell because I couldn't get a straight answer about the tax implications anywhere else. What really helped me was seeing how many people went through the exact same confusion I did. I kept seeing that "up to 28%" language and assumed it meant there were multiple collectible tax brackets or some complex calculation. Understanding that it's simply your ordinary income tax rate (with the 28% cap for high earners) makes everything so much clearer. I'm in the 12% tax bracket, so reading confirmation from others in similar situations that I'd pay 12% on my gains (not automatically 28%) has given me the confidence to finally develop a selling strategy. One thing I want to add for other newcomers - don't let the tax implications scare you away from precious metals investing like I almost did. Once you understand that it's really just your normal tax rate with a ceiling, it becomes much more manageable to factor into your investment planning. Thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences and making this complex topic so much more accessible!

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Giovanni Conti

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm completely new to investing in precious metals and honestly had no idea where to even start with understanding the tax side of things. Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly reassuring - it sounds like I was overthinking this whole collectible tax situation just like many of you did initially. I'm currently in the 15% tax bracket, so if I understand correctly from all the explanations here, I would pay 15% on any long-term gains from gold or silver investments, not the scary 28% rate I kept seeing mentioned everywhere. That makes precious metals investing seem much more feasible for someone just starting out like me. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their real-world experiences and break down these complex rules in such clear terms. This community is amazing for helping newcomers navigate these confusing tax topics!

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As someone who was in the exact same boat a few months ago, I can completely relate to the confusion around collectible tax rates! I spent weeks trying to decipher conflicting information online before finally getting clarity. The key breakthrough for me was understanding that the "up to 28%" language simply means your ordinary income tax rate applies, but it's capped at 28% maximum. So if you're in the 10%, 12%, 22%, or 24% brackets, you pay exactly those rates on your collectible gains. Only people in the higher brackets (32%, 35%, 37%) get "capped" at the 28% collectible rate. I'm in the 22% bracket myself, and when I sold some silver eagles last year, I paid exactly 22% on the gains - not 28%. What helped me most was keeping meticulous records of purchase dates and costs for each transaction, especially since I had bought coins over several months. The relief of finally understanding this was huge! I had been hesitant to sell any of my precious metals because I thought I'd automatically owe 28% regardless of my income level. Once I realized it was just my normal tax rate, it made planning my sales strategy so much easier. Don't let the tax confusion hold you back from making good investment decisions - it's really more straightforward than it initially appears!

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