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Capital Gains Tax: What If You Lose Purchase Receipts for Precious Metals or Collectibles?

I'm trying to understand how capital gains taxes work when you don't have all your receipts. This isn't my situation yet, but I'm thinking ahead. So here's my question - if someone buys precious metals or collectibles over many years and then later sells them for profit, what happens with capital gains taxes if you've lost some of the purchase receipts? For example, let's say my uncle has been buying gold and silver monthly for about 30 years (so like 360 separate purchases). He kept most receipts but about 75 of them are missing after moving houses twice. If he sells everything now, he knows roughly what he paid because he typically paid about 4-6% over spot price, and historical spot prices are well documented. When he reports the capital gains tax, how would this work? Can he use his best estimate of purchase price for the ones without receipts? Would that hold up if he gets audited? Or would he have to pay capital gains tax on the full selling price for those items without receipts (not just on the actual gain)? I'm asking about precious metals specifically, but I guess this would apply to other collectibles too - like art, vintage baseball cards, rare coins, etc. Maybe you have some evidence like a credit card statement showing you spent money at a coin shop, but nothing itemizing exactly what you bought.

Lilly Curtis

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Great question! This is something many long-term collectors and investors struggle with. The IRS requires you to have documentation for your cost basis (purchase price), but they do recognize that in some situations, records might be incomplete. When you don't have the exact receipts, you need to use a "reasonable method" to determine your basis and be able to show you made a good-faith effort. For precious metals where you know the approximate purchase date, you can use historical spot prices plus the typical premium you paid as a reasonable estimate. Document your methodology clearly - write down how you calculated each estimate and why that method makes sense. Keep any partial documentation you have (like those credit card statements). For collectibles like artwork or baseball cards, you might use records of comparable sales from the time period, appraisals, insurance documentation, or even photographs with dates showing when you acquired items. The key is showing you're making an honest, reasonable attempt to determine the correct basis - not just picking numbers that minimize your taxes. Keep detailed records of how you arrived at each estimated cost basis.

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Leo Simmons

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Thanks for the info! Do you think it's worth getting some kind of retroactive appraisal for the items without receipts? Like finding an expert who can look at the items and give a professional opinion on what they would have cost during those specific years?

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Lilly Curtis

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Getting a retroactive appraisal can definitely strengthen your position. A qualified appraiser familiar with historical values for your specific collectibles can provide documentation that would carry more weight than your own estimates alone. This would be particularly valuable for higher-value items where the tax difference could be significant. For precious metals, it's somewhat easier since you can document the historical spot price and then show evidence of the typical premium you paid on your documented purchases to establish a pattern. This approach shows consistency in your purchasing habits.

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Lindsey Fry

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Saleem Vaziri

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How does it work with items that have wildly fluctuating values? I collect vintage comic books and the prices can vary dramatically depending on condition, rarity, etc. I've lost some receipts from purchases in the early 2000s.

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Kayla Morgan

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Lindsey Fry

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One thing nobody's mentioned - if you bought precious metals from a dealer and paid by check or credit card, the dealer might have records of your purchases! I lost receipts from gold purchases in the early 2000s, but when I called the dealer, they were able to pull up my purchase history going back 15 years. Saved me a huge headache when calculating capital gains.

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Arnav Bengali

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That's a great idea! Do dealers usually keep records that long? And would they be willing to share them with you even years later? I've bought silver from multiple dealers over the years and never thought to ask them.

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In my experience, larger established dealers often keep electronic records for a surprisingly long time, especially for regular customers. Most were happy to help when I explained I needed the information for tax purposes. Some smaller dealers might not have retained records as long, but it's always worth asking. Even partial records can help establish a pattern of purchasing that supports your estimated cost basis for other transactions. Just be prepared to verify your identity since they'll want to make sure they're only sharing your purchase history with you.

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Sayid Hassan

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For those items where you absolutely can't establish a cost basis through any reasonable method, keep in mind that the IRS could potentially consider your basis to be $0, meaning you'd pay capital gains tax on the entire proceeds. That's the worst-case scenario you want to avoid. This happened to a friend with a coin collection - couldn't establish basis for about 20% of it, and ended up paying tax on the full amount for those pieces. Pretty painful tax hit!

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Rachel Tao

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Wait, that can't be right. If someone knows they bought something for around $500 twenty years ago (even without a receipt), they can't be forced to pretend they got it for free and pay taxes on the full $2000 sale price today. That would be paying tax on money that wasn't actually profit!

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Amun-Ra Azra

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@Rachel Tao You re'absolutely right to question this - that does sound extreme! While the IRS technically can treat missing basis as zero, they usually only do this in cases where someone clearly made no effort to establish reasonable documentation or when they suspect someone is being dishonest. If you can show you made a good-faith effort to determine your cost basis using reasonable methods like (historical pricing data, partial records, or consistent purchasing patterns ,)the IRS typically won t'force a zero basis. The key is documenting your methodology and showing it s'reasonable, not just picking numbers out of thin air. That said, @Sayid Hassan s point'is important - it s why'having some documentation strategy is crucial rather than just hoping for the best at tax time.

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This is such a valuable discussion! I've been putting off dealing with my stamp collection for years because I was worried about this exact issue. One thing I'd add - if you're in a similar situation, start documenting everything NOW before you sell. Take photos of your items with current dates, write down everything you remember about when and where you bought them, and gather any supporting evidence you can find (old bank statements, insurance records, etc.). I learned the hard way that trying to reconstruct this information after you've already sold items is much harder than doing it beforehand. The IRS appreciates seeing that you made a systematic effort to establish your basis rather than just scrambling at tax time. Also, for anyone dealing with inherited collectibles - the rules are different! You might get a "stepped-up basis" equal to the fair market value when you inherited them, which could save you a lot in taxes. Definitely worth looking into if that applies to your situation.

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This is excellent advice about documenting everything proactively! I'm just getting started with collecting (mainly coins and some vintage watches) and this thread has been incredibly eye-opening about the importance of keeping detailed records from day one. Question about the inherited collectibles and stepped-up basis - does this apply even if the person who passed away also didn't have good documentation of what they originally paid? Like if I inherit my grandfather's coin collection but he lost most of his receipts too, can I still use the fair market value at the time of inheritance as my basis?

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