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Capital gains rate on collectibles - is it flat 28% or does it scale like regular investments?

I'm totally new to this whole capital gains thing and trying to understand how collectibles are taxed when you sell them. What exactly is the capital gains rate on collectibles? I've been searching all morning and gotten some really confusing information. Some sources say it's just a flat 28% rate across the board no matter what your other income is. But others make it sound like it scales up from 0% like regular capital gains on stocks and investments? After reading through a bunch of unclear and sometimes contradicting websites, I think the answer might be: collectible capital gains are taxed at your regular marginal tax rate, but with a maximum cap of 28%. So if my marginal rate is only 12%, I'd pay 12% on the collectible gains, but if my marginal rate is higher like 32%, I'd only pay 28% on the collectibles (not the full 32%). Can someone who actually knows about this stuff confirm if I'm on the right track? I just bought some vintage comic books and want to understand the tax implications if I ever sell them for a profit. Thanks!

You're basically on the right track! For collectibles (things like art, antiques, coins, comic books, etc.), the capital gains tax does work differently than for regular investments like stocks. The way it works is that gains on collectibles held for more than a year are taxed at your ordinary income tax rate, but capped at 28%. So your understanding is correct - if your marginal tax rate is 12%, you'd pay 12% on the collectible gains. If your marginal rate is 32%, you'd pay the maximum 28% rate on the collectible gains. This is different from the regular long-term capital gains rates on stocks and bonds (which are 0%, 15%, or 20% depending on your income). Collectibles don't get the more favorable treatment that those investments receive. Also, if you hold the collectible for less than a year before selling, it's just taxed as ordinary income at your regular tax rates with no special treatment.

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So just to make sure I understand - if I'm in the 24% tax bracket and I sell a collectible coin I've owned for 2 years, I'd pay 24% on the profit? And what about state taxes, are those additional?

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Yes, if you're in the 24% marginal tax bracket and sell a collectible you've owned for over a year, you'd pay 24% on the profit (since that's below the 28% cap). State taxes are indeed additional and vary by state. Most states will tax capital gains as regular income at your state income tax rate. Some states have no income tax, while others might have their own special rates for capital gains. You'll need to check your specific state's rules or consult with a tax professional familiar with your state's tax code.

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - you need to be careful about determining what counts as a "collectible" for tax purposes. The IRS definition includes obvious things like art, coins, stamps, etc. But it also includes precious metals! So if you have gold or silver coins/bullion, those are taxed at the collectible rates (up to 28%), not the lower capital gains rates that apply to stocks. This also applies to certain gold ETFs that are backed by physical gold. Also, remember you only pay taxes on the GAIN (selling price minus what you paid), not the total selling price.

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What about things like baseball cards or Pokémon cards? Are those considered collectibles too for tax purposes?

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Yes, baseball cards, Pokémon cards, comic books, and similar items would all be considered collectibles for tax purposes. Basically any physical item that people collect and that potentially appreciates in value would fall under the collectible capital gains rules. The IRS doesn't provide an exhaustive list of everything that counts as a collectible, but the general rule is that tangible personal property held for investment rather than personal use will be treated as a collectible. So your collection of rare Pokémon cards would definitely qualify if you're selling them for a profit.

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Does anyone know if you have to pay this collectible tax rate if you inherited items? My grandfather left me his coin collection and I'm thinking about selling some of it.

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When you inherit collectibles, you get what's called a "stepped-up basis" - meaning your cost basis is the fair market value of the items at the time of the person's death, not what they originally paid. This can be a huge tax advantage! If you sell them right away for approximately what they were worth when you inherited them, you might have little to no capital gains to pay taxes on. The challenge is properly documenting that value - getting an appraisal at the time of inheritance is ideal.

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One thing to keep in mind about those vintage comic books you mentioned - the condition and authenticity can massively impact both the sale price and your tax liability. If you're dealing with valuable comics, make sure you keep detailed records of what you paid originally (your "basis") including any restoration or grading costs you might have incurred, since those can be added to your cost basis. Also, if you're planning to sell multiple comics over time, consider the timing. Since collectibles are taxed at your ordinary income rate (up to that 28% cap), selling them in a year when your other income is lower could save you money. For example, if you have a year where you're in the 12% bracket instead of 22%, you'd pay 12% on the collectible gains instead of 22%. The IRS can be pretty strict about hobby vs. investment classification too. If you're buying and selling comics regularly, they might consider it a business rather than capital gains, which would change how everything gets taxed. Keep good records of your transactions!

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This is really helpful info about the hobby vs. investment classification! I hadn't thought about that distinction. Since I just bought a few vintage comics as a one-time thing and don't plan to make it a regular buying/selling activity, I should be okay with capital gains treatment, right? Also, when you mention adding restoration costs to the cost basis - does that include things like getting them professionally graded by CGC or CBCS? Those grading fees can be pretty expensive but if they increase the value significantly, it would be great to know I can include those costs.

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Yes, if you're just making a one-time purchase and sale of a few comics, that should clearly fall under capital gains treatment rather than business income. The IRS generally looks at factors like frequency of transactions, time spent, and intent to make a profit from regular trading activity. And absolutely yes, professional grading costs from CGC, CBCS, or other reputable grading services can be added to your cost basis! These are considered costs that improve or preserve the value of your collectible. So if you paid $500 for a comic and then spent $100 to get it graded, your basis would be $600. If you later sell it for $1,000, you'd only pay capital gains tax on $400 instead of $500. Just make sure to keep all your receipts and documentation - the grading invoices, shipping costs to and from the grading company, any insurance costs, etc. The IRS likes to see clear records for collectible transactions since the values can be subjective.

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This is such a timely question! I just went through this exact situation when I sold some rare baseball cards I'd been collecting for years. The confusion about collectible tax rates is totally understandable - even tax software sometimes gets it wrong. You're absolutely correct in your understanding. Collectibles are taxed at your ordinary income tax rate, but capped at 28%. So if you're in the 12% bracket, you pay 12% on collectible gains. If you're in the 32% bracket, you only pay the maximum 28%. One thing I learned the hard way is to keep really detailed records of what you originally paid for each comic, including any fees for authentication, grading, or storage. These all count toward your cost basis and can significantly reduce your taxable gain when you sell. Also, don't forget that if you hold the comics for less than a year before selling, they're taxed as short-term capital gains at your full ordinary income rate with no 28% cap protection. So there's definitely an advantage to holding collectibles for more than a year if you're planning to sell them.

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Thanks for sharing your experience with the baseball cards! That's really reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through this process. I'm definitely planning to hold onto the comics for more than a year - that short-term vs long-term distinction is huge when you're looking at potentially paying your full marginal rate without any cap. Your point about keeping detailed records is well taken. I've already started a spreadsheet tracking what I paid for each comic, but I hadn't thought about including storage costs. Are things like acid-free bags, backing boards, and storage boxes deductible as part of the basis? Or is that getting too granular? Also, did you find any particular challenges when it came to proving the fair market value at the time of sale, especially for more obscure collectibles that don't have as clear of a market price?

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Storage costs like acid-free bags, backing boards, and storage boxes are generally considered personal expenses rather than improvements to the collectibles themselves, so they typically can't be added to your cost basis. The IRS usually only allows costs that directly improve or preserve the specific item's condition or value - like professional grading, authentication, or restoration services. For proving fair market value, I found that graded comics are much easier since you can reference recent sales of the same issue in the same grade on platforms like eBay sold listings, Heritage Auctions, or GoCollect. For ungraded comics, it gets trickier - I ended up getting a professional appraisal for my higher-value cards to avoid any issues with the IRS. One tip: if you're dealing with key issues or high-value comics, consider getting them graded before selling even if you bought them raw. Not only does it typically increase the sale price, but it also gives you a clear, objective condition assessment that makes determining fair market value much easier for tax purposes.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who's been buying and selling vintage collectibles for a few years now, I can confirm everything that's been said about the collectible tax rates. One additional point that might be useful - if you're dealing with multiple collectibles sold throughout the year, you might want to consider bunching your sales into years when your overall income is lower. Since collectibles are taxed at your ordinary income rate (capped at 28%), strategic timing can really make a difference. For example, I had a big bonus year where I was temporarily in the 32% bracket, so I held off selling some collectibles until the following year when I was back down to 24%. Saved me 4% on the gains, which added up to real money. Also, if you're serious about collecting comics or other items as investments, consider keeping a detailed log of market research, time spent researching purchases, and any educational materials you buy about collecting. While you can't deduct these as business expenses if you're treating it as investment activity, having detailed records shows the IRS that you're approaching this seriously as an investment rather than just a hobby.

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This is such great strategic advice about timing the sales! I never thought about how my overall income in a given year could affect the tax rate on collectibles. That 4% difference you saved really shows how much planning ahead can matter. Your point about keeping detailed records of research and education is smart too. Even if you can't deduct those expenses, showing that you're approaching collecting systematically rather than just casually buying things you like could definitely help if the IRS ever questions whether it's investment activity versus a hobby. Question for you - when you say "bunching sales," do you mean literally waiting until January of the following year, or is there more nuance to the timing? I'm wondering if there are other factors like estimated tax payments that might complicate the strategy of shifting income between tax years.

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