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Benjamin Kim

Claiming Income & Deductions for Horse Boarding on Personal Property

My wife and I have a small farm with several acres and we keep a few horses on our property. We're purely hobby horse owners - no racing, breeding, showing, or anything commercial. We just enjoy having them around and taking care of them. Recently, a friend asked if we could board their horse with ours. They insist on paying us about $350 monthly for feed and care. This is actually below the going rate in our area, but they like that their horse gets personalized attention. Their horse has some special dietary requirements, so it's easy to track those specific expenses separately from our own horses. When I add up all the expenses directly tied to their horse (special feed, supplements, etc.), it doesn't equal what they're paying us throughout the year. We also have our own horse expenses that are completely separate. I tend to be very conservative with taxes - I figure the IRS always wins in the end, so I plan to report this boarding money as income. But I'm trying to figure out the best approach to minimize the tax impact. From what I've researched, there's a lot of information about people using horse activities as tax shelters, but that's definitely not us. Both my wife and I have regular jobs that allow us to afford our horses as a hobby. I'm thinking I'll need to claim this as "other income" on our taxes, but then what? Can I deduct the costs specifically for our friend's horse? What about our own horse expenses? We normally itemize our deductions. Any advice would be appreciated!

You're right to report the income! This falls under what the IRS would consider "hobby income," but with some potential deductions. Since you're receiving payment for boarding and care, you'll report this on Schedule 1 as "other income." For the expenses related specifically to your friend's horse, you can deduct these on Schedule A as miscellaneous itemized deductions. Keep detailed records of all expenses directly tied to their horse - feed, supplements, vet bills, farrier services, and even a reasonable portion of utilities or property maintenance for the horse's area. Unfortunately, expenses for your own horses wouldn't be deductible unless you could establish that your horse activities constitute a business with profit motive. Based on what you've described, this sounds purely like a hobby, and hobby expenses are only deductible to the extent of hobby income. If you wanted to get more aggressive (though it sounds like that's not your style), you could consider establishing a small horse boarding business. This would require showing a profit motive and running it like a business, but might allow more deductions through Schedule C. But again, this comes with more scrutiny and requirements from the IRS.

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Thanks for the explanation! I thought miscellaneous itemized deductions were suspended until 2026 under the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act? Is there another way to deduct these expenses? Also, if we did want to establish it as a small business, what would we need to do to show "profit motive"?

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You're absolutely right about miscellaneous itemized deductions being suspended - I should have been clearer. Currently, those specific expenses can't be deducted on Schedule A as I suggested. For showing profit motive, you'd need to operate like a legitimate business - maintain separate bank accounts, create a business plan, advertise your services, keep professional records, and show efforts to increase profitability. The IRS uses a nine-factor test to determine if an activity is a business or hobby, including whether you conduct the activity in a businesslike manner, your expertise, time invested, expectation of asset appreciation, success in similar activities, history of income/losses, amount of profits, your financial status, and elements of personal pleasure/recreation.

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I want to apologize and provide an update. After being skeptical about Claimyr, I decided to try it as a last resort since I'd been trying to reach the IRS for months about my horse boarding situation. I'm completely shocked - it actually worked! Got connected to an IRS agent within about 25 minutes. The agent was super helpful and explained that my situation could potentially qualify as a business activity if I showed intent to make a profit over time. They explained the "hobby loss rule" (which requires you to show profit in 3 out of 5 years to be presumed a business) but also noted that even without meeting that test, I could still qualify as a business if I could demonstrate genuine profit motive through my actions and record-keeping. This was literally the clearest answer I've gotten after months of research. Sometimes you have to admit when you're wrong, and I was definitely wrong about Claimyr!

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is the Schedule E option. If you're providing space but minimal services, you might consider treating it as rental income instead. With Schedule E, you report the income as rental income rather than business income, which means no self-employment tax. You can still deduct expenses directly related to the rental portion of your property. The key is whether you're primarily providing a service (care, feeding, training) or just space. If mostly just space with minimal services, Schedule E might be appropriate. If you're actively caring for the horse and providing significant services, then Schedule C is more appropriate.

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This is an interesting angle I hadn't considered! In our case, we're definitely providing significant services (daily feeding, grooming, stall cleaning, turnout, etc.) beyond just the space. Would the Schedule E approach still work in that case, or would the IRS view this level of service as pushing it into Schedule C territory?

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With the level of services you're describing (daily feeding, grooming, stall cleaning, turnout), the IRS would almost certainly consider this an active service business rather than passive rental income. Schedule E is most appropriate when you're primarily providing the space with very minimal services. In your case, Schedule C would be more appropriate if you're treating it as a business. The advantage is you can deduct all ordinary and necessary business expenses. The disadvantage is you'll pay self-employment tax on the net profit. However, with proper expense tracking, you might find your net profit is quite small anyway.

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Have you looked into farm tax status for your property? In many states, having horses on a certain amount of acreage can qualify your property for agricultural tax rates, which can significantly reduce property taxes!

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This varies HUGELY by state and county. In my area, horses only count for ag exemption if they're breeding stock or used in a commercial operation. Hobby horses don't qualify. Check your local tax assessor's office for specific requirements.

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Great discussion here! As someone who went through a similar transition from hobby to small business with horses, I wanted to add a few practical points: First, if you do decide to treat this as a business activity, make sure you open a separate business bank account immediately. This makes tracking income and expenses much cleaner and shows the IRS you're treating it seriously. Second, consider your insurance situation. Once you're boarding horses for others (even just one), your homeowner's/farm insurance might not cover liability issues. You may need commercial liability coverage, which becomes a legitimate business expense. Third, document everything about your "profit motive" - even if you're not profitable yet. Keep records of time spent researching boarding rates in your area, any improvements you make to facilities, attempts to find additional boarders, etc. The IRS looks at your actions, not just your results. One last tip: if you do go the Schedule C route, consider making quarterly estimated tax payments. Since there's no employer withholding on this income, you could end up with a surprise tax bill and penalties if you wait until year-end. The boarding income might seem small now, but proper setup from the beginning will save you headaches if you decide to expand later!

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This is such a helpful thread! As someone who's been considering a similar arrangement with a neighbor, I'm curious about the record-keeping requirements. @Benjamin Kim - you mentioned you can easily track expenses for your friend's horse separately from your own. Are you keeping receipts for everything, or is there a simpler system that works well? I'm wondering about things like hay purchases where you might buy in bulk but only a portion goes to the boarded horse. Also, has anyone dealt with the quarterly estimated tax payments that @Sofia Morales mentioned? I'm trying to figure out if $350/month would even trigger that requirement, especially after deducting legitimate business expenses. One more question - if you do establish this as a business activity, does that affect your homeowner's insurance at all? I hadn't thought about the liability aspect until it was mentioned here.

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Great questions! For record-keeping, I use a simple spreadsheet where I track all horse-related expenses with a column indicating whether it's for our horses, the boarded horse, or shared. For bulk purchases like hay, I calculate the percentage based on consumption - if the boarded horse eats about 25% of the hay, I allocate 25% of each hay purchase as a business expense. Regarding quarterly payments, with $350/month ($4,200 annually), you'd likely need to make them if your net profit after expenses is over $400, since you'd owe self-employment tax. But honestly, between feed, supplements, insurance increases, and facility maintenance, my net profit was much smaller than I initially expected. On insurance - definitely check with your agent! I discovered my homeowner's policy excluded commercial boarding activities. I had to add a small commercial liability rider, which actually became one of my legitimate business deductions. The peace of mind was worth it, especially since even friends can sue if something goes wrong. The key is being systematic from day one. Even if you're not sure about the business vs. hobby classification yet, good records will support either approach come tax time!

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I've been following this discussion with great interest since I'm in a very similar situation - just started boarding a friend's horse last month for $400/month. One thing I'd like to add based on my research: even if you treat this as hobby income initially, you can potentially change to business treatment in future years if your situation evolves. The IRS doesn't lock you into one classification forever. What's been most eye-opening from this thread is realizing how many expenses I wasn't considering. Things like vehicle mileage for feed runs, a portion of my property insurance, even depreciation on equipment used for the boarded horse. These can really add up and significantly reduce your taxable profit. @Benjamin Kim - have you considered whether your friend would be willing to pay some expenses directly (like vet bills or farrier services for their horse)? That could reduce both your income and your deductible expenses, simplifying the whole situation. Plus, it might demonstrate to the IRS that this is a legitimate boarding arrangement rather than just helping out a friend. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this has been incredibly valuable for someone just starting out!

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@AstroAce raises an excellent point about having your friend pay some expenses directly! This approach can really simplify things tax-wise. When I started boarding, I had the horse owner pay the farrier and vet directly for their horse's services. This reduced my gross income while also reducing my deductible expenses by the same amount - essentially a wash, but with much cleaner record-keeping. Another benefit of this arrangement is that it creates a clear paper trail showing this is a legitimate boarding relationship rather than just informal help between friends. The IRS appreciates seeing arm's length transactions. One thing to be careful about though - make sure you're still charging enough to cover your actual costs and time. Even in a business context, if you're consistently losing money year after year without a clear path to profitability, the IRS might still classify it as a hobby. The key is demonstrating that you're operating with genuine business intent, even if profits are modest. @Benjamin Kim might want to document his boarding rate research for the area to show he s'charging reasonable market rates, even if slightly below average due to the personalized care factor.

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This has been such an informative discussion! As a tax professional, I want to emphasize a few key points that have come up: 1. **Documentation is everything** - Whether you go hobby or business route, keep meticulous records from day one. I've seen too many clients scramble at tax time trying to reconstruct expenses. 2. **The "profit motive" test isn't just about making money** - it's about conducting yourself like someone who INTENDS to make money. This includes things like: researching market rates, maintaining professional records, seeking ways to improve profitability, and treating it as a separate activity from your personal horse enjoyment. 3. **Consider the long-term picture** - Even if you're only boarding one horse now, if there's any possibility of expansion, starting with proper business practices makes sense. It's much harder to switch from hobby to business treatment later. 4. **State taxes matter too** - Don't forget that your state may have different rules for business income, sales tax on services, or even licensing requirements for boarding operations. The insurance point that @Sofia Morales raised is crucial and often overlooked. Many people don't realize their homeowner's policy might not cover commercial activities until it's too late. Given your conservative approach to taxes, @Benjamin Kim, I'd lean toward the Schedule C business treatment if you can demonstrate genuine profit motive. The self-employment tax hurts, but the ability to deduct legitimate business expenses usually more than makes up for it.

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@Joy Olmedo, thank you for that professional perspective! As someone new to this community, I'm amazed by how thorough this discussion has been. Your point about state-specific requirements really resonates - I hadn't even thought about potential licensing requirements for boarding operations. I'm actually in the early stages of considering a similar arrangement with a neighbor, and this entire thread has been incredibly educational. The progression from basic income reporting questions to discussing insurance, quarterly taxes, profit motive documentation, and business structure has really opened my eyes to the complexity involved. One follow-up question for the tax professional perspective: For someone just starting out with boarding one horse, would you recommend consulting with a tax professional before making the hobby vs. business decision, or is this something most people can reasonably evaluate on their own using the guidance shared here? Also, @Benjamin Kim, I'd be curious to hear if you've made a decision on your approach after all this great advice! Your original post really sparked something valuable for this community.

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