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Can an Engineering Consulting LLC Qualify for the 20% QBI Deduction (Section 199A)?

I've been diving deeper into my tax situation lately, especially figuring out quarterly estimated payments to the IRS and optimizing contributions between Roth solo 401k versus traditional solo 401k for myself and my spouse. Just discovered the Section 199A deduction (20% Qualified Business Income Deduction) and wondering if I can take advantage of this since I hadn't factored it in before. My question is whether my LLC would qualify for this deduction? It's currently a pass-through entity (not yet an S-corp, though I plan to file that paperwork this year). My business provides engineering consulting services to various firms, and I charge them an hourly rate. Has anyone successfully claimed this deduction with a similar business structure? Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

This is a great question about the Section 199A deduction (also known as the Qualified Business Income or QBI deduction). The answer is somewhat complicated because engineering is actually listed as one of the "specified service trades or businesses" (SSTBs) that face limitations. If your taxable income is below certain thresholds ($170,050 for single filers or $340,100 for married filing jointly in 2023), you can take the full 20% QBI deduction regardless of being in engineering. If your income is above those thresholds but below $220,050 (single) or $440,100 (married), you get a partial deduction that phases out. If you're above the upper thresholds, you likely won't qualify at all as an engineering consultant. Converting to an S-corp wouldn't change the SSTB designation, but it might help with self-employment taxes if structured properly. The reasonable salary requirements would still apply though.

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Thanks for the explanation! I'm married filing jointly and our combined income is around $310,000. Does that mean I would qualify for the full 20% deduction even though engineering is considered an SSTB? Also, when you say "reasonable salary" for S-corps, what percentage of business profit is typically considered reasonable for engineering consultants?

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Yes, at $310,000 for married filing jointly, you would qualify for the full 20% QBI deduction since you're below the $340,100 threshold (for 2023), even though engineering consulting is considered an SSTB. You're in that sweet spot where you get the full benefit. For S-corps and reasonable salary, there's no fixed percentage that's universally accepted. For engineering consultants, typically 40-60% of profits as salary is considered reasonable, but it really depends on your specific situation. The IRS looks at factors like your qualifications, hours worked, what similar positions pay in your market, and the relationship between services and business income. Document your salary determination process well if you go the S-corp route.

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How accurate is this tool compared to what a CPA would tell you? I'm in a similar boat with architecture services (also an SSTB) and my accountant gave me conflicting information about whether I qualify.

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Ava Kim

Does this tool help with the S-corp analysis too? I've been putting off filing for S-corp status because I'm not sure if the tax savings would outweigh the extra administrative work and costs. Trying to figure out if it's worth it in my specific situation.

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The tool is remarkably accurate - it was developed with tax attorneys and uses the same regulatory guidelines CPAs reference. The difference is it can analyze multiple scenarios quickly and show you exactly which parts of your business qualify. Several users have reported that it found deductions their CPAs missed due to the complexity of the 199A regulations. Regarding S-corp analysis, yes! It has a comprehensive S-corporation module that compares your current tax situation with projected S-corp scenarios. It calculates potential savings against the increased costs (payroll service, additional tax filings, etc.). For me, it showed I'd save about $8,700 annually by switching, even after accounting for all the extra costs. The tool also gives you guidance on establishing a reasonable salary based on industry benchmarks.

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Ava Kim

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I'm an engineering consultant who successfully claimed the QBI deduction last year. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - keep VERY detailed records of exactly what services you're providing. In my case, I was able to demonstrate that about 40% of my work involved product development and implementation rather than pure engineering consulting. This matters because if you can show that a portion of your business isn't technically part of the "engineering" SSTB definition, you might be able to allocate that portion for the QBI deduction even if your income is above the thresholds. I created separate engagement letters and invoices that clearly distinguished between different types of services I provided.

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That's super helpful! How exactly did you categorize your services to show they weren't part of engineering? I do a mix of technical consulting, project management, and some software implementation - wondering if I could separate these somehow.

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I categorized my services into three distinct buckets: traditional engineering consulting (which is definitely SSTB), technical project management (which I documented as non-SSTB), and product implementation services (also non-SSTB). The key is having clear contracts and invoices that separate these services. For your situation, the project management and software implementation would likely qualify as non-SSTB activities if you document them properly. Make sure you have separate engagement agreements that clearly outline the scope of each service type, track hours separately, and invoice them as distinct services. I also took photos of the actual implementation work and kept detailed logs of activities that fell outside traditional "engineering consultation" to support my position.

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Random question but has anyone used TurboTax Self-Employed for calculating the QBI deduction for an engineering LLC? I tried last year and it seemed to automatically disqualify me completely when I selected "engineering services" even though my income was under the threshold. Had to override it manually and now I'm worried about getting audited.

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I had this exact issue with TurboTax! I switched to TaxSlayer last year and it correctly calculated the QBI deduction for my engineering firm since I was under the income threshold. TurboTax's questionnaire is too rigid and doesn't properly account for the income thresholds for SSTBs.

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Great question about the QBI deduction! As an engineering consultant myself, I can confirm that you can absolutely qualify for the 20% deduction even though engineering is considered an SSTB. The key is your income level - since you're married filing jointly and under the $340,100 threshold, you should get the full deduction regardless of the SSTB designation. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given - when you do convert to S-corp (which sounds like a smart move for your income level), make sure you understand that the QBI deduction applies to the K-1 income from the S-corp, not your W-2 wages. So if you're paying yourself $120k in salary and taking $80k in distributions, only the $80k would be eligible for the QBI deduction. Also, definitely keep detailed records of your business activities. I've found that many engineering consultants actually do work that falls outside the strict SSTB definition - things like project management, training, or business process consulting. These activities might qualify for QBI even above the income thresholds if properly documented.

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This is really helpful information! I'm just starting to understand all of this as a newcomer to the engineering consulting world. Your point about S-corp income allocation is particularly interesting - I hadn't realized that only the K-1 distributions would qualify for QBI, not the salary portion. Quick follow-up question: when you mention documenting activities that fall outside the SSTB definition, do you need to get any kind of pre-approval from the IRS, or is it just a matter of having good records in case of an audit? I do quite a bit of project management and client training as part of my consulting work, so this could potentially apply to my situation too.

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