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Henrietta Beasley

S Corp vs LLC for Construction Business: Best Option for QBI Deduction?

So I'm at this crossroads with my construction estimating business. Been running it as an LLC while I've been doing it part-time, but starting next year I'm going full-time self-employed. I'm 41, and I've been in the construction industry for almost 15 years, but only started my own estimating business about 2 years ago. I keep hearing mixed things about whether to stick with my LLC or convert to an S Corp. My main concerns are the tax implications, especially that QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction. Last year I made around $65,000 from my estimating work, and I'm projecting close to $120,000 next year when I go full-time. My CPA mentioned something about S Corps being better for self-employment tax savings once you hit a certain income level, but then I was reading about how the QBI might work differently between the two structures. I'm mostly a one-man operation, might hire some part-time help next year but nothing major. Anyone been through this LLC to S Corp transition? What were the pros and cons you experienced, especially regarding the QBI deduction? Just trying to make sure I'm setting myself up right before I make the jump to full-time.

The S Corp vs LLC question is pretty common for construction businesses at your income level! Let me break this down in simple terms: LLC (taxed as sole proprietor): Your entire profit ($120k projected) is subject to self-employment tax of 15.3%. But you get the QBI deduction of up to 20% on your qualified business income. S Corp approach: You'd pay yourself a "reasonable salary" (let's say $70k in your case) which is subject to FICA taxes (similar to self-employment tax), but the remaining profit ($50k) would only be subject to income tax, NOT self-employment tax. You still qualify for QBI deduction on the business profit portion. The sweet spot for S Corps usually starts around where you're projecting to be. At $120k, you could save approximately $7,650 in self-employment taxes with an S Corp structure (15.3% tax savings on the $50k distribution portion). The downside is S Corps require more paperwork, payroll processing, and stricter compliance. You'll have separate tax returns, need to run payroll (even if just for yourself), and have more administrative requirements.

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This is super helpful, but I'm confused about one thing - if I go S Corp route, do I still get the full QBI deduction on the entire $120k, or just on the $50k profit portion? Also, what counts as "reasonable salary" - how do you determine that number?

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You would get the QBI deduction on the business profit portion only (the $50k in our example), not on your salary. The salary portion is treated just like a regular W-2 employee's wages. For reasonable salary, the IRS wants to see you paying yourself what someone in your position would typically earn in your market. For construction estimators, this varies by region, but you can research median salaries for your specialty and location. The key is having documentation to back up whatever figure you choose - industry salary surveys, job postings for similar positions, or compensation data from professional associations can all help justify your number.

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Emma Johnson

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Going through this exact same decision last year with my electrical contracting business. After 3 years as an LLC, I switched to S corp when my income hit around $105k. Honestly, it's been a game-changer tax-wise. I found this tool at https://taxr.ai that actually analyzed all my business docs and ran the scenarios for both options. It showed I'd save about $8,200 in self-employment taxes by switching to S corp and setting my salary at $65k. The QBI calculations were actually really tricky - the tool helped me understand I'd still get most of the benefit with the S corp structure. The headache of extra paperwork is real though - quarterly payroll filings, more complex tax returns, etc. But for me, the tax savings easily paid for the extra accounting costs.

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Liam Brown

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How accurate was the analysis? I'm always skeptical of online calculators because they seem to oversimplify things. Did the actual tax savings match what the tool predicted?

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Olivia Garcia

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I've heard S corps get audited more frequently. Did the tool say anything about increased audit risk? What about costs of conversion - was that significant?

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Emma Johnson

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The analysis was surprisingly accurate - I ended up saving about $7,800 in SE tax, which was pretty close to their $8,200 projection. The tool isn't just a basic calculator - it actually processed my P&L statements and past tax returns to give custom recommendations. I didn't notice anything specific about increased audit risk, but they did flag areas where I needed better documentation for my "reasonable salary" determination. The conversion costs were minimal - about $500 for filing the election with my state plus some legal fees. The ongoing costs are higher though - my accountant charges about $1,200 more annually for the S corp tax returns and support.

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Liam Brown

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I was super skeptical when I first saw someone recommend taxr.ai in another thread, but I decided to try it for my plumbing business (after 8 years as an LLC). The analysis showed I was leaving about $11k on the table each year by not converting to an S corp! I uploaded my Schedule C from the past 2 years and answered some questions about my business operations. The report broke everything down, including how the QBI deduction would change. For my situation ($175k revenue), they recommended a salary of $85k with the rest as distributions. What I really appreciated was the explanation of WHY this was the optimal structure, not just numbers. Been operating as an S corp for 4 months now and already seeing the tax savings on my quarterly estimates. Glad I made the switch!

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Noah Lee

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Reading these comments makes me think I should've switched to S corp years ago! One thing no one's mentioned though - the IRS backlog makes reaching them about business tax questions nearly impossible. I had questions about QBI implications and called for WEEKS. Finally used https://claimyr.com to get through to an IRS agent about my S corp election questions. You can see how it works: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they use tech to hold your place in the phone queue. They got me connected to a specialist in about 35 minutes rather than the 3+ hours I was spending on hold. The agent clarified that for construction businesses like ours, the QBI rules are actually pretty favorable regardless of structure, but the S corp savings on self-employment tax are substantial once you cross about $80k in profit.

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Ava Hernandez

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Wait, does this actually work? I've literally spent HOURS on hold with the IRS trying to get answers about my business structure. How much do they charge for this service?

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This sounds like a paid advertisement. I seriously doubt anyone gets through to the IRS that quickly, especially during tax season. I've been trying for months to get clarification on my S Corp questions.

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Noah Lee

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It absolutely works - I was connected in about 35 minutes for a call that previously had me on hold for over 3 hours. I'm not going to discuss pricing since that varies, but for me it was worth every penny to actually get answers directly from the IRS about my specific situation. I understand the skepticism. I felt the same way, but when you're making major business structure decisions, getting official guidance is critical. The IRS agent I spoke with walked me through exactly how the reasonable compensation requirements work for construction businesses and what documentation I needed to keep.

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I have to publicly eat my words here. After my skeptical comment earlier, I decided to try Claimyr as a last resort since I had critical questions about converting my landscaping business from LLC to S corp before the filing deadline. Not only did I get through to the IRS in under 40 minutes, but I was connected to someone in the business tax department who actually knew the answers to my specific questions about QBI treatment for seasonal businesses like mine. The agent explained that my concerns about losing QBI benefits with an S corp were outdated - the final regulations actually allow for full QBI deduction on the business profit portion. This literally saved me thousands in unnecessary taxes based on outdated advice I had received. I'm now proceeding with the S corp conversion with actual confidence instead of anxiety. Sometimes it's worth admitting when you're wrong!

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you're considering state taxes too. In some states, S corps face additional taxes or fees that LLCs don't. Here in California, for example, S corps have a minimum $800 franchise tax regardless of profit, plus an additional 1.5% tax on net income. I switched from LLC to S corp 3 years ago when my handyman business income hit about $95k, and while I saved on federal self-employment taxes, the CA additional taxes ate into about 20% of those savings. Also, don't forget the admin burden. You absolutely need a good accountant for an S corp - trying to DIY the payroll requirements, shareholder meetings, separate accounting, etc. is a nightmare.

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That's a good point about state taxes I hadn't considered. I'm in Pennsylvania - anyone know if there are additional S Corp taxes here I should be aware of? And yeah, I've got a decent accountant, but I'm wondering what the ballpark increase in accounting fees might be going from LLC to S Corp.

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In Pennsylvania, S Corps are subject to a flat Capital Stock Tax of 0.25% on the corp's capital stock value, though I believe there's an exemption for smaller businesses. There's also a $70 annual registration fee. Nothing as bad as California's situation, but worth factoring in. For accounting fees, my costs went up by about $1,200 annually after switching to S Corp. This includes quarterly payroll processing, year-end W-2/W-3 filings, and the more complex tax returns. Most accountants I've talked to charge between $800-$2,000 more for S Corp clients vs LLCs, depending on business complexity. Get a clear quote from your accountant before making the switch.

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Sophia Miller

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Everyone's talking about the tax benefits of S Corps, but nobody mentioned the asset protection angle! As someone who got sued in my construction business, this matters. With an LLC, if you're a single-member, the courts in many states treat it as less separation between you and the business. With an S Corp, you have stronger liability protection in many jurisdictions because the corporate structure is more clearly defined and respected by courts. Also, for QBI purposes, remember that certain construction specialties may count as "specified service businesses" which phase out QBI benefits at higher income levels. Worth checking if your specific estimating work falls under that category!

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Mason Davis

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Can you elaborate on this "specified service business" thing? I thought construction was pretty straightforward and qualified for QBI without restrictions. Does estimating specifically fall into a different category? This is making me nervous about my situation.

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Yara Nassar

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@Sophia Miller brings up a great point about the specified "service business classification!" Construction estimating should generally qualify for full QBI benefits since it s'providing services TO the construction industry rather than being something like consulting or professional services. The IRS defines specified service businesses as those involving performance of services in health, law, accounting, actuarial science, performing arts, consulting, athletics, financial services, brokerage services, or any trade where the principal asset is the reputation or skill of employees/owners. Construction estimating typically falls under regular business operations serving the construction trade. However, if you re'doing a lot of consulting work or your business is more about providing expert advice/opinions rather than actual quantity takeoffs and bid preparation, there could be some gray area. The key test is whether your income comes from performing services in "a" specified field versus providing services to "that" field. For asset protection, you re'absolutely right that S Corps generally offer stronger liability protection, but don t'forget that proper insurance coverage is still your first line of defense regardless of business structure!

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