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Freya Thomsen

Can I write off unpaid family business loan as a tax deduction if they can't pay me back?

So I'm in a bit of a financial mess here. About 3 years ago, I loaned my brother around $47,000 to help him start his landscaping business. We had a basic agreement (nothing fancy, just a signed paper saying he'd pay me back with minimal interest within 2 years). I wired him the money with "Business Loan - Greenscape Ventures" in the details. Fast forward to now - his business struggled from day one, eventually folded completely last year, and he's basically admitted he can't pay me back anything close to what I loaned him. Maybe a few thousand at most over the next several years. I'm wondering if there's any way I can write this off as a bad debt or some kind of loss on my taxes? I'm not a business myself, just a regular person who was trying to help family. I've still got the wire transfer receipt and our agreement. Would really appreciate any advice on whether this is deductible somehow since that money is basically gone. Thanks!

Omar Zaki

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You might be able to claim this as a non-business bad debt deduction, but there are some important requirements to meet. For the IRS to accept this deduction, you'll need to establish that this was genuinely a loan and not a gift. The signed agreement you mentioned helps, but you'll need to demonstrate that there was an expectation of repayment from the beginning. The fact that you specified "Business Loan" in the wire transfer is definitely helpful documentation. Non-business bad debts are treated as short-term capital losses on Schedule D, and they're subject to capital loss limitations (generally up to $3,000 per year against ordinary income). You'd need to show that the debt became completely worthless during the tax year you're claiming it - meaning there's no reasonable expectation of recovery. You should gather any documentation showing your attempts to collect the debt and your brother's inability to pay. If your brother declared bankruptcy or his business formally closed, those documents would help establish worthlessness.

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AstroAce

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Does it matter that it was to a family member? I've heard the IRS is super suspicious about transactions between relatives. Also, would OP need to amend previous years' returns or can they claim it all this year?

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Omar Zaki

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Yes, loans to family members face more scrutiny because the IRS is concerned they might actually be gifts disguised as loans. That's why having documentation showing a true creditor-debtor relationship is crucial - the signed agreement, evidence of attempts to collect, and especially that wire transfer description. For timing, you claim the bad debt deduction in the year the debt becomes totally worthless. If OP can establish the debt became worthless in the current tax year (2025), they would claim it now. No need to amend prior returns. However, if the debt actually became worthless in a previous year, technically they should have claimed it then and would need to amend that year's return (subject to the statute of limitations).

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Chloe Martin

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Diego Rojas

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Sounds interesting but I'm curious - did it help you figure out how to report it on your tax forms? Like which specific line or schedule to use? My tax software always confuses me on unusual deductions like this.

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I'm always skeptical of these online tools. Did you still need to talk to a human tax person after using it or was it actually comprehensive enough to handle the whole situation?

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Chloe Martin

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It did show me exactly where to report it - you have to use Form 8949 (Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets) and Schedule D (Capital Gains and Losses). The bad debt goes on Form 8949 as a short-term capital loss with the appropriate codes, then carries to Schedule D. It even prepared a statement explaining the bad debt that I could attach to my return. I actually didn't need to consult a tax professional afterward. The guidance was comprehensive enough that I felt confident handling it myself. It explained the whole process including how the capital loss limitations work (I can only deduct $3,000 per year against ordinary income) and how to carry forward remaining losses to future tax years. It even flagged that I should keep documentation of my collection attempts in case of audit.

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StarStrider

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Luca Esposito

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Something important nobody's mentioned yet - if you claimed any interest income from this loan on previous tax returns, that strengthens your case that this was a legitimate loan and not a gift. If you didn't charge interest or report any, the IRS might be more suspicious about whether this was truly a loan. Also, make sure you're claiming this in the right tax year. The deduction should be claimed in the year the debt becomes totally worthless. If your brother officially closed his business last year or declared he couldn't pay you back last year, that's when you should claim it - not this year.

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Freya Thomsen

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I did charge a small interest rate (like 2%) but I never actually reported it on my taxes since he never made any payments. Should I go back and amend those previous returns to show the interest I SHOULD have received, even though I didn't get it? Would that help my case or just complicate things?

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Luca Esposito

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You don't need to amend previous returns to report interest you never received. In fact, doing so might raise red flags. What matters is that you had a legitimate expectation of being repaid with interest, which your loan agreement should show. The IRS follows the concept of "constructive receipt" - you only need to report income when you actually receive it or have unrestricted access to it. Since you never received any interest payments, there was nothing to report. Just focus on documenting that this was a genuine loan with the expectation of repayment, and that the debt has now become worthless.

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Nia Thompson

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I'm confused about the capital loss treatment. If OP claims this $47k as a non-business bad debt, does that mean they can only deduct $3k per year? So it would take like 16 years to fully deduct the loss?

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Yes, that's right. Non-business bad debts are treated as short-term capital losses, which means they're subject to the capital loss limitation ($3,000 per year against ordinary income). However, if OP has any capital gains in the same year, the loss would first offset those gains. Any remaining loss can be carried forward indefinitely to future tax years. So if OP has no capital gains, it would take about 16 years to fully utilize the $47,000 loss. But if they have capital gains in future years, they could use more of the loss carryforward each year to offset those gains without the $3,000 limitation.

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