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DeShawn Washington

Can I deduct a personal loan I gave to my brother on my taxes?

So I'm in a weird financial situation. Last year, I lent my brother $7,500 to help him start his home renovation business. He was supposed to pay me back within 6 months with interest, but it's been over a year and he's only paid back $1,200. He's going through some tough times with the business struggling. I was talking to a friend who mentioned I might be able to write this off as a bad debt on my taxes since it seems like I might never get the full amount back. Is this actually a thing? Can I deduct personal loans that aren't being repaid? Would I need documentation or a formal agreement? We only had a text message agreement about the loan terms. I'm doing my 2024 taxes soon and trying to figure out if this is worth pursuing. Any advice would be super helpful!

Unfortunately, personal loans to family members are very difficult to write off as bad debts on your taxes. The IRS looks at these situations carefully because they know families often try to disguise gifts as "loans gone bad." For a bad debt deduction, you need to prove it was a genuine loan (not a gift), that you tried to collect the debt, and that the debt became worthless during the tax year you're claiming it. You'd need formal loan documentation, evidence of collection attempts, and proof it's now worthless - meaning you have no reasonable expectation of being repaid. Also, personal bad debts are claimed as short-term capital losses on Schedule D, not as direct deductions. This means they first offset capital gains, then can offset up to $3,000 of ordinary income per year.

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What if they had a notarized loan agreement? Would that be enough documentation for the IRS? And does the whole loan have to be worthless or can they write off the portion that's unlikely to be repaid?

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A notarized loan agreement would definitely strengthen your case, but it's still not guaranteed to be enough by itself. The IRS wants to see that this was a legitimate creditor-debtor relationship, not just family helping family. Having formal documentation, bank records of the transfer, a reasonable interest rate, and a fixed repayment schedule all help build that case. As for partial worthlessness, the IRS generally requires that a non-business bad debt be totally worthless before you can claim a deduction. Since your brother has made some payments, the IRS could argue the debt isn't completely worthless yet. You'd need to wait until it's clear no further payments will be coming - which can be difficult to establish when it's family.

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Does this actually work for casual loan situations? I loaned my buddy $5k for his food truck and I'm wondering if I could write it off since he ghosted me. Would taxr be able to tell me if I have enough evidence?

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I'm skeptical. How exactly does an AI tell you if you have enough documentation? Does it actually understand IRS regulations or is it just generic advice?

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Just to add some more info on bad debt deductions - my tax guy told me there's a big difference between business bad debts and nonbusiness bad debts. If you loaned money to your brother FOR his business, and you're in the business of lending money, that could be a business bad debt which has better tax treatment. But if you just personally loaned him money, even if he used it for his business, it's probably a nonbusiness bad debt for you.

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That's an interesting point. My brother did use the money for his renovation business startup costs, but I'm definitely not in the business of lending money - I'm a graphic designer. Would that distinction matter at all? Or is it still just considered a personal loan since I'm not a professional lender?

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Since you're not in the business of lending money, it would still be considered a nonbusiness bad debt for you. The key factor is your primary business activity, not how your brother used the funds. If you were a professional investor or in the lending business and made this loan as part of your regular business activities, then it could potentially qualify as a business bad debt. But as a graphic designer making a one-off loan to a family member, the IRS will classify this as a nonbusiness bad debt, which has more limitations on how you can deduct it.

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Has anyone tried claiming these types of loans as gifts instead? If you're below the annual gift tax exclusion amount (which is $18,000 for 2025), wouldn't it be easier to just consider it a gift for tax purposes? You wouldn't get a deduction but at least you wouldn't risk an audit, right?

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That's actually what I did with a $5000 "loan" to my cousin that I knew I'd never see again. Less headache, and honestly, it was kinda a gift anyway since I suspected he wouldn't repay it. Just keep in mind you can't switch back and forth - if you call it a gift, you can't later try to claim it as a bad debt if they don't pay.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. That's a good point about not being able to change your mind later. I think I'm going to go the gift route too - seems cleaner and less risky from an audit perspective. And you're right, when I loan money to family, I always mentally prepare for the possibility I won't get it back anyway.

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I went through something similar with my sister a few years back. One thing that really helped me understand the situation was documenting everything I could find - not just for potential tax purposes, but to get clarity on what I actually had. Even though your original agreement was just text messages, gather everything you can: the initial texts about the loan terms, any payment records (bank transfers, checks, etc.), and any subsequent communications about repayment. If your brother acknowledged the debt in writing at any point, that's valuable too. The reality is that most personal loans to family members don't qualify for bad debt deductions because the IRS assumes they're really gifts unless you can prove otherwise. But having good documentation helps you understand where you stand and what your options are. You might also want to consider having a frank conversation with your brother about officially writing off the remaining balance - sometimes that's better for family relationships than dragging it out indefinitely. Whatever you decide, don't claim the deduction unless you're confident you can back it up with solid documentation. The last thing you want is an audit over a questionable deduction.

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